"The Perfect Push-Up"

candlemass · Subject: "The Perfect Push-Up" Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:58 am

So these things any good?

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**arttieTHE1manparty** · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:15 pm

Opinions vary. They don't focus on one area as much, which could be both good and bad, depending on your focus. One problem people have told me they have is you can't effectively do wide grip pushups because the handles force your wrists into a straight up and down position.

Arttie

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**Black Rider** · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:21 pm

I really like them, they give my shoulders more range of motion so which keeps them from aching as much.

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Jim · Number of posts: 738 Age: 37 Registration date: 2007-06-01

Just do bench presses. Seriously, If you like gadjets, like I do, I would get them. If nothing else they are a gimic you can use because you want to play with the new toy so you'll do the push ups.

candlemass · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:01 am

I don't lift weights, I do a little cardio work out a few times a week on the Gazelle. I'm not interested in body building, just a little tone up and weight loss.

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**Black Rider** · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:44 am

Then push ups would be great.

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candlemass · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:23 pm

Black Rider wrote:

Then push ups would be great.

.....and push aways, from the dinner table! Twisted Evil

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endlessfuneral2003 · Number of posts: 1475 Registration date: 2007-01-01

lol

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scottmitchell74 · Number of posts: 4930 Age: 35 Registration date: 2007-03-07

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.....and push aways, from the dinner table!

In all seriousness that's exercise #1! If we all did that better/more!!

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**arttieTHE1manparty** · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:31 am

Not if you're trying to add weight!

Arttie

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candlemass · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:09 pm

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:

Not if you're trying to add weight!
Arttie

Freak!

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Mercury · Number of posts: 49 Registration date: 2009-07-27

Push ups are a great exercise for maintaining mass and shape-especially if you are having time difficulties or you are especially tired. I find that iof I have had a very busy week with a disrupted program, the push ups are great.

I try for 100, usually in 'sets' to failure and really focus on pumping as much blood as possible into the pecs, triceps and delts. Once you get to about 40 you are haviong to really push through which has the same effect as a short heavy set on the bench.

**arttieTHE1manparty** · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:14 am

Mercury wrote:

I try for 100, usually in 'sets' to failure and really focus on pumping as much blood as possible into the pecs, triceps and delts. Once you get to about 40 you are haviong to really push through which has the same effect as a short heavy set on the bench.

No they don't. While the burn is there (to be sure!), you are still only moving a percentage of your bodyweight. Nowhere near the same thing as laying under a bar with 8 plates and squeezing the last couple of reps. Totally different muscle fiber stimulation.

Arttie

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Mercury · Number of posts: 49 Registration date: 2009-07-27

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:

Mercury wrote:

I try for 100, usually in 'sets' to failure and really focus on pumping as much blood as possible into the pecs, triceps and delts. Once you get to about 40 you are haviong to really push through which has the same effect as a short heavy set on the bench.

No they don't. While the burn is there (to be sure!), you are still only moving a percentage of your bodyweight. Nowhere near the same thing as laying under a bar with 8 plates and squeezing the last couple of reps. Totally different muscle fiber stimulation.

Arttie

Hmmm..have to disagree. Having said that I'm not advocating pushups as a replacement for bench-where iI do agree with you. The point is if you are pushing through failure the concept of deep fibre mechanics changes. Actual weight factor does as well because the muscle is operating at a maximum. Pace of movement is a big factor as well. In the end it it is what works for the individual.

I put on more mass this way when I was in the army than by benching-but the caveat is that I have a much higher active percentage of fast twitch fibres than slow twitch. though now I find that bench, with dips and flys is where my strength improvements come from.

Cheers Arttie-nice to cyber meet you Very Happy

**arttieTHE1manparty** · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:56 am

Welcome!

Well, as a competitive bodybuilder/powerlifter and a certified personal trainer, I would stand by my statement, but it is also about individual genetics, mechanics, and ability.

That being said, I can do push-ups all day and not get what I get from my power pyramid benching style.

Arttie

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Mercury · Number of posts: 49 Registration date: 2009-07-27

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:

Welcome!

Well, as a competitive bodybuilder/powerlifter and a certified personal trainer, I would stand by my statement, but it is also about individual genetics, mechanics, and ability.

That being said, I can do push-ups all day and not get what I get from my power pyramid benching style.

Arttie

I wish I had the time...I wish I had the time Sad

I guess my experience is from a totally different background of resistance training. My introduction came via the Australian army trainingalongside the amazing SAS. They turned me inside out and back to front haha.

Nowadays I am a high school teacher with 3 kids-4 fays of pain in the gym is what I am getting so I make it hurt cheers

Mercury · Number of posts: 49 Registration date: 2009-07-27

Mercury wrote:

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:

Welcome!

Well, as a competitive bodybuilder/powerlifter and a certified personal trainer, I would stand by my statement, but it is also about individual genetics, mechanics, and ability.

That being said, I can do push-ups all day and not get what I get from my power pyramid benching style.

Arttie

I wish I had the time...I wish I had the time Sad

I guess my experience is from a totally different background of resistance training. My introduction came via the Australian army trainingalongside the amazing SAS. They turned me inside out and back to front haha.

Nowadays I am a high school teacher with 3 kids-4 fays of pain in the gym is what I am getting so I make it hurt

I t is nice to have a conversation on a forum that is civil for a change-I like this forum cheers

**arttieTHE1manparty** · Subject: Re: "The Perfect Push-Up" Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:23 pm

Mercury wrote:

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:

Welcome!

Well, as a competitive bodybuilder/powerlifter and a certified personal trainer, I would stand by my statement, but it is also about individual genetics, mechanics, and ability.

That being said, I can do push-ups all day and not get what I get from my power pyramid benching style.

Arttie

I wish I had the time...I wish I had the time Sad

I guess my experience is from a totally different background of resistance training. My introduction came via the Australian army trainingalongside the amazing SAS. They turned me inside out and back to front haha.

Nowadays I am a high school teacher with 3 kids-4 fays of pain in the gym is what I am getting so I make it hurt

I t is nice to have a conversation on a forum that is civil for a change-I like this forum cheers

That is the goal! Glad you like it here!

Arttie

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feel_life · Number of posts: 3 Registration date: 2009-09-22

candlemass wrote:

So these things any good?

Do your shoulders and wallet a favor just learn to do pushups correctly, then add weight. Weights vests, chains, sandbags drapped over your back or even your wife/gf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmwIEnczYf8&feature=fvsr

Basically getting strong at push ups will help your bench press numbers and keep your shoulders healthy.

Jim · Number of posts: 738 Age: 37 Registration date: 2007-06-01

I haven't read this thread for a while now but I have to agree with Artie on the Bench Press vs. Push-Up debate. That being said...I got the perfect pushup gadjet and I like them...but after my bench presses.