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WildWorld
Number of posts: 418 Registration date: 2007-04-19
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Follower of Jesus

Number of posts: 3334 Age: 36 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:28 am | |
| I think they are partly right and partly wrong. Some modern translations are going beyond the meaning of the text to update not only the language, but the principles to modern times. This is wrong. But merely updating the language itself to make it more understandable, which is what the NIV does, is not only good, but necessary! |
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Lord Vrgzrolbrozkrunkztre

Number of posts: 57 Registration date: 2009-07-27
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:52 am | |
| I read an article on this a little while ago (link below) that sums up my feelings on the matter pretty effectively: Conservatizing the Bible |
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Black Rider Man in Morph

Number of posts: 14619 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-04-09
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:22 am | |
| Good article Lord Vrgzdhgoueswldjao. _________________ I don't have time for all if it, so I pick my battles. I concentrate on spotting and weeding out satanic paper, handkerchiefs (do you really want Satan that close to your nose?) and eggs. I can spot satanic eggs at Wal Mart like a frickin' drug sniffing dog.
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FireStormWarning CMRs Resident Canine

Number of posts: 4181 Age: 21 Registration date: 2007-04-09
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:34 pm | |
| What Bible translations are liberalized by modern language? Honestly this sounds to me like a case of trying to alter the Bible to fit an agenda. |
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exo

Number of posts: 8671 Age: 34 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:19 pm | |
| | FireStormWarning wrote: | | What Bible translations are liberalized by modern language? Honestly this sounds to me like a case of trying to alter the Bible to fit an agenda. |
+1 _________________ Obama is no more the Anti-Christ than George Bush is Sauron, sending his armies into Iraq searching for the One Ring.....
Dwarven gravitational theory states that enough ale will make anything fall down.
Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "Hey, is there room in your head for one more?"
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shadow_zone
Number of posts: 502 Age: 23 Registration date: 2008-12-03
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:23 am | |
| so these guys think that they should change the bible to suit American conservative political agenda? How then would it appeal to someone who doesnt agree with conservative politics? The bible is written in a low level of english so that anyone can read it, and I cant see how parables spoken 2000 years ago would reflect modern concepts of free market. |
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Follower of Jesus

Number of posts: 3334 Age: 36 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:32 am | |
| The issue of gender-neutrality is one example, exo. |
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DeliveranceThrash777

Number of posts: 94 Age: 13 Registration date: 2009-09-30
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:11 am | |
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alldatndensum Mission Of One

Number of posts: 9992 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-01-03
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:46 am | |
| | FireStormWarning wrote: | | What Bible translations are liberalized by modern language? Honestly this sounds to me like a case of trying to alter the Bible to fit an agenda. |
I'll shorten your post to two words:
CASH GRAB!_________________  "I have no desire to speak w/other tongues, I already do enough damage w/the one I have!!" - Candlemass |
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FireStormWarning CMRs Resident Canine

Number of posts: 4181 Age: 21 Registration date: 2007-04-09
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:23 pm | |
| | alldatndensum wrote: | | FireStormWarning wrote: | | What Bible translations are liberalized by modern language? Honestly this sounds to me like a case of trying to alter the Bible to fit an agenda. |
I'll shorten your post to two words:
CASH GRAB! |
More than likely correct. |
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Jessrox

Number of posts: 212 Age: 39 Registration date: 2009-09-25
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:17 pm | |
| Not cool at all! flirtin with disaster. |
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WildWorld
Number of posts: 418 Registration date: 2007-04-19
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:46 pm | |
| Yeah, i mean, what if Liberals decide to make a "Liberal Bible" by re-interpreting certain passages, or racists make a "racist bible", again, by re-interpreting passages? Now there IS a "Klingon Bible", but thats simply the Bible translated into Klingon (no, really) and i think that could be useful to convert Trekkies into Christians. |
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ReddSonia

Number of posts: 67 Age: 39 Registration date: 2008-08-21
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:11 am | |
| I just mentioned this out loud..."Comic Strip Bible"...my teenagers response-"What for lazy people?"....kids!Gotta love em! |
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Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:04 pm | |
| Came across this article and I thought it had a lot of relatability to this thread: | Quote: | Professor Ellen van Wolde, a respected Old Testament scholar and author, claims the first sentence of Genesis "in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth" is not a true translation of the Hebrew.
She claims she has carried out fresh textual analysis that suggests the writers of the great book never intended to suggest that God created the world -- and in fact the Earth was already there when he created humans and animals.
She said she eventually concluded the Hebrew verb "bara", which is used in the first sentence of the book of Genesis, does not mean "to create" but to "spatially separate".
The first sentence should now read "in the beginning God separated the Heaven and the Earth"
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source_________________ “If you make less than $250,000 your taxes will not go up. Not one dime.” BH Obama ''Let me be clear: There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was. The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year -- now,'' Candidate Obama in 2007  |
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exo

Number of posts: 8671 Age: 34 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:44 pm | |
| It's Hebrew, lady....not rocket science. it's not like you're translating the rosetta Stone. there are a number of highly knowledgeable scholars of Hebrew (an dhave been, over the years), and by this point, if your concept of the translation was correct, just looking at averages and liklihood over time.......this would be a historical arguement, not something relatively new. _________________ Obama is no more the Anti-Christ than George Bush is Sauron, sending his armies into Iraq searching for the One Ring.....
Dwarven gravitational theory states that enough ale will make anything fall down.
Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "Hey, is there room in your head for one more?"
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alldatndensum Mission Of One

Number of posts: 9992 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-01-03
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:57 pm | |
| Sounds like just another "scholar" trying to take God out of the equation. _________________  "I have no desire to speak w/other tongues, I already do enough damage w/the one I have!!" - Candlemass |
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StryperFanBassmanInNM

Number of posts: 451 Age: 36 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:06 pm | |
| no thanks... I prefer my ESV Bible, NKJV Bible , and MacArthur Study Bible. As someone who is a conservative, I think that they are reaching on this one. |
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Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:39 pm | |
| What really cracks me up is that the Hebrew word for "separate", badal, is used 3 times in Genesis 1. I think if Moses had intended to tell us that God separated the heavens and the earth, he knew the word to use. This is just another example of letting the opinions of men dictate to us what the Word of God "really means". _________________ “If you make less than $250,000 your taxes will not go up. Not one dime.” BH Obama ''Let me be clear: There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was. The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year -- now,'' Candidate Obama in 2007  |
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Angel with Attitude The Emperor Has No Clothes

Number of posts: 3479 Registration date: 2007-04-09
 | Subject: Re: The Conservative Bible? Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:31 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Yeah, i mean, what if Liberals decide to make a "Liberal Bible" by re-interpreting certain passages, or racists make a "racist bible", again, by re-interpreting passages? |
Bearing in mind that these things are emphasized by some with the Bible we already have, the tit-for-tat approach seems kind of unnecessary to me. This seems like an insult to people's intelligence and was not intended with edification of the entire body in mind, which seems to me to be the purpose of the Bible in the first place. _________________ only symbols can be twisted ,burned,spat on etc.NOTHING truly Holy can be desecrated..... - Sabbath Steve
All the Bible study tends to be head knowledge until life experiences drive that knowledge the 12-18 inches to our hearts. aldat
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