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PostSubject: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:57 am

you may have seen this already....


http://www.youtube.com/v/bESXATmQy5s&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0">

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:36 am

Most of us know that Oprah is into New Age, and if anyone didn't know, now that that New Age dude that was a guest on her show is under investigation for those deaths, they probably know now.

Another weird thing is that school for girls that she started in Africa, where there was that abuse scandal. It seems she apologized, and afterwards there was yet another scandal about it.

She also gives money to a school for Palestinian children, which is apparently an Islamic indoctrination center where they teach the little ones to hate Jews. Nothing like funding hate, right? I wonder if she knows or cares, or perhaps she even does it intentionally.

When you think about it, there is a lot in common between New Age and certain brands of Satanism. They both teach that you are your own god.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:18 am

"What about those who have never heard of Jesus and live a good life?"

This is the "red herring" brought up by so many to despute the exclusivity of salvation in Christ alone. Where is this person who has never heard of Christ that is living a good life? The RCC allows for the possiblility that such a person may be saved, but even some have taken that to the extreme and think most will. Hank Hanegraaff has said those who respond to the light they have will be given more, and we can trust them to a God who is perfectly just and perfectly merciful. I'm not so concerned about those who have never heard, but those who have heard and believe not.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:24 am

This question was answered by St. Paul in the 1st chapter of Romans:

"since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse."

If you look at this in the contex of the text, it makes even more sense. It not only tells us that men are without excuse, it tells us that God's righteousness and wrath have been revealed to men, but that when they knew God they glorified him not, so He darkened their foolish hearts.

God reveals and gives light, but He also darkens the hearts of those who reject Him, so that they will be given over to even darker things. Does that scare you? Then when God gives you light, take advantage of it while you can!

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:38 am

The giving over to darker things can also be an act of loving discipline, Paul said he handed some people over to Satan so they may be taught not to blaspheme, the man who had his father's wife was excommunicated for discipline. The idea is in hopes that things will be so bad for them, that sin will become exceedingly sinful they will cry out to God for the grace to truly repent.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:38 am

When Judgment day comes all that money and "charitble" stuff wont help her as Christ will deny her if she dont change that is

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:00 am

i just cannot phathom someone openly denying Christ maybe its my upbringing but that to me is the worst thing one can do

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:20 am

We should not be surprised that the world denies Christ. It is sad, but it is foretold by the Bible. As for those who have never heard the name "Jesus" I do believe that if they seek God based on the knowledge given them through creation (Rom. 1), then God reveals the truth of Jesus to them.

I read a story about a tribe in some remote part of the world that was completely cutoff from the rest of the world. When found, it was discovered that they already knew who Jesus was and had accepted him. They said an angel had come and described the truth of Christ to them after they had pleaded with God to save them from their sins. I wish I could find that story now. It's a perfect answer to Oprah's very legitimate question.
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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:28 am

I'm glad this post is getting some responses.

What scares me more than what she is saying is that there are how many miilion blind sheep huasfraus sitting around watching her and taking in every word like she is the be all end all. Not to mention the Black community that takes every word she says as gospel. I don't want to go off on a race tanget but it's true.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:04 pm

My thoughts exactly. She has such a huge audience and can spread this garbage to so many people....



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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:20 pm

Just because we don't know exactly what will happen we turn our backs? We don't know very much about anything but let's start with what we do know, like: Christ being a real, documented being on earth who made claims and backed them up.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:56 pm

Clearly not all in the African American community agree with her, as demonstrated by the 2 young gentlemen at the end of the video.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:26 pm

Are we really worried about a human as if she can somehow keep those destined to be reached by Christ from doing so? Are we really giving Oprah that much power?

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:44 pm

She is definately confused.

Seems like she made absolutely no effort to investigate scriptures or preaching she heard in the early part of her life. At least from christian sources.

It almost seems like she was just looking for an excuse.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:47 pm

KingsRite wrote:
She is definately confused.

Seems like she made absolutely no effort to investigate scriptures or preaching she heard in the early part of her life. At least from christian sources.

It almost seems like she was just looking for an excuse.


As it is with many new-agers and athiests.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:03 pm

Definition of Unitarianism. One ocean, many rivers. It's becoming popular these days. What's more annoying is that if you don't buy into it, you're "close-minded" and probably a closet bigot. But if you're atheist that's cool too.

One of the biggest proofs why Christianity is the truth is that the most rebellion is directed towards it.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:25 pm

BLAH BLAH!
...Jesus left no room for ambiguity where He was concerned. One of the hardest things for me to do, as a Xian, is to allow those close to me to decide against Jesus...I love 'em, and I'm gonna show them the truth always, and I'm always there for them, but...yeah, anyone understand what I'm getting at?

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:56 am

I totally get it, Uncle Necro. Totally...



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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:23 am

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As for those who have never heard the name "Jesus" I do believe that if they seek God based on the knowledge given them through creation (Rom. 1), then God reveals the truth of Jesus to them.


This is what I believe as well. I think the Romans verse says this.

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PostSubject: Re: Oprah Denies Christ   Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:30 pm

Points:


1. I just read every post in this thread.

I had fun.


(And some peeps said learning to read at university would not be fun. Wrong )




2. FOJ said:

Quote:
As for those who have never heard the name "Jesus" I do believe that if they seek God based on the knowledge given them through creation (Rom. 1), then God reveals the truth of Jesus to them.


HE does.




3. This topic.....Oprah......heh, idiots on patrol.

Free will is such an astounding concept. Some people choose to use it for spiritual benefit. Some people choose to use it for spiritual loss.

GOD ranks it very, very highly in importance.






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