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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:13 am

"There is nothing new under the sun", according to Ecclesiastes,Toho.

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:09 am

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Welcome to the postmodern era, where everything is relative Neutral




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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:10 am

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Wow, no one's stuck-up here Rolling Eyes

Just because others like movies that you don't like doesn't mean they don't have taste.

Oh, by the way, about this whole "Americans have no taste" crap.

First
off, those "cartoon-to-live action" movies do VERY POORLY at the box
office. COuld that mean that *gasp* Americans AREN'T watching those
movies?

Second, ditch your Euro-phelia, because movies that tend
to do well here (especailly the "mindless" ones)....DO WELL IN THE REST
OF THE WORLD AS WELL!!!!

Oh yeah, and American Idol (which I DO
NOT watch)........ORIGINATED IN EUROPE!!!! Infact, REALITY TV SHOWS
FIRST GOT POPULAR IN EUROPE!!!!




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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:29 pm

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Wow, no one's stuck-up here Rolling Eyes

Just because others like movies that you don't like doesn't mean they don't have taste.

Oh, by the way, about this whole "Americans have no taste" crap.

First off, those "cartoon-to-live action" movies do VERY POORLY at the box office. COuld that mean that *gasp* Americans AREN'T watching those movies?

Second, ditch your Euro-phelia, because movies that tend to do well here (especailly the "mindless" ones)....DO WELL IN THE REST OF THE WORLD AS WELL!!!!

Oh yeah, and American Idol (which I DO NOT watch)........ORIGINATED IN EUROPE!!!! Infact, REALITY TV SHOWS FIRST GOT POPULAR IN EUROPE!!!!


maybe so, but that just makes American taste poorer if we bring it over here. every country has it's entertainment downfall and some have excellent things that make up for it.

my problem is hollywood, an american institution, for lack of better terms, is pumping out these things. again they aren't the only ones, but the most glaring to those in this country.

so pardon us for getting opinionated about our preferences. we'll just agree that hollywood knows what's best from now on. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:06 pm

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DeathMetalCookieMonster wrote:
Wow, no one's stuck-up here Rolling Eyes

Just because others like movies that you don't like doesn't mean they don't have taste.

Oh, by the way, about this whole "Americans have no taste" crap.

First off, those "cartoon-to-live action" movies do VERY POORLY at the box office. COuld that mean that *gasp* Americans AREN'T watching those movies?

Second, ditch your Euro-phelia, because movies that tend to do well here (especailly the "mindless" ones)....DO WELL IN THE REST OF THE WORLD AS WELL!!!!

Oh yeah, and American Idol (which I DO NOT watch)........ORIGINATED IN EUROPE!!!! Infact, REALITY TV SHOWS FIRST GOT POPULAR IN EUROPE!!!!


maybe so, but that just makes American taste poorer if we bring it over here. every country has it's entertainment downfall and some have excellent things that make up for it.

my problem is hollywood, an american institution, for lack of better terms, is pumping out these things. again they aren't the only ones, but the most glaring to those in this country.

so pardon us for getting opinionated about our preferences. we'll just agree that hollywood knows what's best from now on. Twisted Evil


Way to put words at my fingers that were never typed. I NEVER said that Hollywood knows best. My beef is how you and others have said "Oh, Americans have no taste". And why? Because you (a) think that just because a movie is made, people love that type of movie (of course forgetting the fact that those same movies do TERRIBLE at the box office), (b) because some people dont' like the same stuff that you do, that apparently means that they have bad taste, and/or (c) you obviously dont' pay attention to the movies that come out during fall, spring, and winter.

Yes, Hollywood's lost it's imagination (for the most part). But notice how most of those remakes/TV-into-movies/cartoon-into-live-action/etc. do TERRIBLE at the box office? So stop bashing the American people just because hollywood (which is as far apart from actually real America is one can get) makes crappy movies.

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:37 pm

DeathMetalCookieMonster wrote:
BackFromTheDawn wrote:
DeathMetalCookieMonster wrote:
Wow, no one's stuck-up here Rolling Eyes

Just because others like movies that you don't like doesn't mean they don't have taste.

Oh, by the way, about this whole "Americans have no taste" crap.

First
off, those "cartoon-to-live action" movies do VERY POORLY at the box
office. COuld that mean that *gasp* Americans AREN'T watching those
movies?

Second, ditch your Euro-phelia, because movies that tend
to do well here (especailly the "mindless" ones)....DO WELL IN THE REST
OF THE WORLD AS WELL!!!!

Oh yeah, and American Idol (which I DO
NOT watch)........ORIGINATED IN EUROPE!!!! Infact, REALITY TV SHOWS
FIRST GOT POPULAR IN EUROPE!!!!


maybe so, but that just
makes American taste poorer if we bring it over here. every country has
it's entertainment downfall and some have excellent things that make up
for it.

my problem is hollywood, an american institution, for
lack of better terms, is pumping out these things. again they aren't
the only ones, but the most glaring to those in this country.

so pardon us for getting opinionated about our preferences. we'll just agree that hollywood knows what's best from now on. Twisted Evil


Way
to put words at my fingers that were never typed. I NEVER said that
Hollywood knows best. My beef is how you and others have said "Oh,
Americans have no taste". And why? Because you (a) think that just
because a movie is made, people love that type of movie (of course
forgetting the fact that those same movies do TERRIBLE at the box
office), (b) because some people dont' like the same stuff that you do,
that apparently means that they have bad taste, and/or (c) you
obviously dont' pay attention to the movies that come out during fall,
spring, and winter.

Yes, Hollywood's lost it's imagination (for
the most part). But notice how most of those
remakes/TV-into-movies/cartoon-into-live-action/etc. do TERRIBLE at the
box office? So stop bashing the American people just because hollywood
(which is as far apart from actually real America is one can get) makes
crappy movies.




Does this issue really warrant an argument?

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:45 am

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Does this issue really warrant an argument?



Well it depends on what group/entity is being accused of throwing some other group/entity "under a bus" today...



I'd say not, but personal insults over matters of subjective taste must be offered apparently. Neutral

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:51 am

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Well it depends on what group/entity is being accused of throwing some other group/entity "under a bus" today...


Looks like you completely forgot that one thread where after going back and forth a bit I conceded taht perhaps I've been a little too defensive on that issue.

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:44 am

That's good to recognize I suppose...

I've been a bit busy to notice what's going on around here as much as I might normally AND I'm not picking a fight with you.


The thing is, everyone is welcome to offer their view on a subject.

It is possible and desirable to offer counter-point w/o labelling anyone at all even if what they've said is putrid or off-base in someone else's opini0n.


I agree with what you've said about top-grossing films in the US being really popular elsewhere. I personally don't like alot of those films or the genres they are, the formulas used over and over,etc but it entertains others and gives them enjoyment, which I have no problem with. They have decided to spend their money and time that way. American culture is what it is, some of it I like and can appreciate, some of it is retarded lies told ad nauseum.

If I'd rather spend my (precious and irreplaceable) time viewing something else, as would some others, if that is 'stuck-up' or 'Europhilia' to you, then it is. Just don't expect folks to not speak up if they aren't interested in your labelling.

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:00 pm

Angel with Attitude wrote:
That's good to recognize I suppose...

I've been a bit busy to notice what's going on around here as much as I might normally AND I'm not picking a fight with you.


The thing is, everyone is welcome to offer their view on a subject.

It is possible and desirable to offer counter-point w/o labelling anyone at all even if what they've said is putrid or off-base in someone else's opini0n.


I agree with what you've said about top-grossing films in the US being really popular elsewhere. I personally don't like alot of those films or the genres they are, the formulas used over and over,etc but it entertains others and gives them enjoyment, which I have no problem with. They have decided to spend their money and time that way. American culture is what it is, some of it I like and can appreciate, some of it is retarded lies told ad nauseum.

If I'd rather spend my (precious and irreplaceable) time viewing something else, as would some others, if that is 'stuck-up' or 'Europhilia' to you, then it is. Just don't expect folks to not speak up if they aren't interested in your labelling.


I wasn't calling anyone who doesn't want to see those movies "stuck up" or "Europhiles". The people I was calling stuck-up are the ones that are like "You like those movies? Hmmmp! You idiot commoner!" and labeling Americans as having bad taste because HOLLYWOOD makes those rediculous movies (which, again, do TERRIBLE at the box office).

I LOVE indie movies, myself. I also tend to like alot of action movies. I also love documentaries. In other words, I like what I like. If someone else doesn't like what I like, I dont' look at them as having "bad taste".

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:48 pm

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I wasn't calling anyone who doesn't want to see those movies "stuck up" or "Europhiles". The people I was calling stuck-up are the ones that are like "You like those movies? Hmmmp! You idiot commoner!" and labeling Americans as having bad taste because HOLLYWOOD makes those rediculous movies (which, again, do TERRIBLE at the box office).


Ok. Thanks for clarifiying. I hear ya... BELIEVE me !! I just got back from the land of sn00T ( Marina del Rey~ Los Angeles) where one has to dress a certain way, eat snooty food and drink overpriced snooty drinks, have a sn00ty guy in a dorky cheap vest park your car and pay him for it scratch to be a 'scenester' there.


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labeling Americans as having bad taste


Well, some of them do and some don't. Razz I DO get your distinction there however. *nods*

I find too much nationalism around anything disturbing. There's more than my comfort level would prefer represented here and I'd like to keep the hardcore separated from the merely patriotic and law-abiding in my mind.

Also, on a somewhat related note, I feel that this labelling is being pushed more recently here to be like it is in prisons. Whites with the whites only, etc. If you love this country you will be for the white man and against the evil illegal immigrants, if you show concern for your fellow human being who isn't a white American, you are a closet socialist and unpatriotic and a tool of ZOG, so we'll kindly refer to you as 'progressive' to your face. I'm not saying you, Cookie have said so, I'm making myself clear on how labelling can work against us.

All the labelling that concerns itself with how My Group/set of beliefs are all good and should never be criticized and attack/labelling shall be put upon anyone who doesn't think so will be noted and answered. It's nothing personal.

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:19 pm

I think Americans like to argue too much.
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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:10 pm

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I think Americans like to argue too much.


You would be correct! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:19 am

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I think Americans like to argue too much.


whatever gave you that idea? i disagree!!

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:20 am

Do any other country even have debate teams in their schools?

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PostSubject: Re: Ok, these films based on cartoons have gone too far   Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:21 am

that's a good question, actually...

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