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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:37 am

And with that, you've totally ignored every counterpoint just made. Ash, wake up and quite parroting what you hear from the left.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:33 am

Good grief! Now Obama's thugs want all opposition to be reported directly to them so they can keep track of it. From the WH blog:

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There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out
there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care.
These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or
through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them
here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an
email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that
seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

They even want us to snitch on people for casual conversations. How Orwellian can you get?

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:39 am

I wonder how well THAT will go. They tried the same thing during the previous prez's administration. Anyone remember TIPS?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_TIPS
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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:24 am

Tall Tyrion wrote:
Good grief! Now Obama's thugs want all opposition to be reported directly to them so they can keep track of it. From the WH blog:

Quote:
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out
there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care.
These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or
through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them
here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an
email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that
seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

They even want us to snitch on people for casual conversations. How Orwellian can you get?


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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:38 pm

I'm reporting GW, pronto.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:57 pm

Not if I do it first!!!!!!!!!!! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:04 pm

This is something very GOOD that I think everyone should have an option to sign up for--

Some doctors are experimenting with completely cutting out Insurance Companies and working directly with a patient pool.. and it only costs 49 to 79 dollars a month for good Primary Care that is available 7 days a week- Interestingly, insurance companies are trying to force them to charge more or possibly face legal charges-

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8286796




Oh, and Bump=-

Everybody having access to doctors, treatments, tests, meds = good thing

Not having to pay higher rates for meds, hospital visits, treatments, tests
too me make up for all teh people that don't currently have access to
healthcare = good thing

Not being able to get turned down or lose healthcoverage because of pre-existing condtions = good thing

Being able to continue coverage when you lose your employment somewhere = good thing

Having more options, and cheaper, due to a National Public Option forcing
Private industry to lower prices in order to compete = Good thing.

Being able to quit my job and go back to working for myself, due to an afordable public option of healthcare = Good Thing!

Doctors being payed based on Patient Outcomes, instead of how many tests or drugs they dish out = good thing.

It's all really quite simple.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:36 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:46 pm

Ooh.. Lookit that Gone! Those evil profit-mongering doctors are looking for ways to help their patients without Uncle Sam's intervention! How dare they! LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:05 pm

Insurance companies are trying to force him to charge more? That's a serious accusation...Also, an incorrect one. Here is the link to the "New York State Insurance Regulators" website. Now, why would they have Governor Patterson's picture on there? I thought they were a private insurance company! But wait, there's more! If you look more, you find, they are part of the new York State Insurance Department!

So, those people are quite evil. I mean, they're government so it doesn't make a bit of sense, but there it is! ABC is doing quite an interview here. The good Doctor was interviewed on Fox News, by Neil Cavuto I believe it was, and blamed the Government, so where these insurance industries come in, I don't know. Well, government run insurance I guess. Gotta wonder, if they can't run this right, how can the Federal Government run it all?

But wait, there's more! The head of Qliance in the interview said he wants to work with insurance companies, nowhere did he mention the government!
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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:56 pm

Gone wrote:

Some doctors are experimenting with completely cutting out Insurance Companies and working directly with a patient pool.. and it only costs 49 to 79 dollars a month for good Primary Care that is available 7 days a week-


Which is how our health care system worked before government stepped in to "fix" it.

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So, those people are quite evil. I mean, they're
government so it doesn't make a bit of sense, but there it is!


Government is the only entity that can force anyone do anything. If a private industry wants to eliminate competition or tinker with the market, they must lobby government to do so on their behalf. All of this would simply go away if we forced politicians to start following the Constitution, because it gives them no power to do any of these things, but we have not had a Constitutional government for a long, long time.

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The good Doctor was interviewed on Fox
News, by Neil Cavuto I believe it was, and blamed the Government, so
where these insurance industries come in, I don't know. Well,
government run insurance I guess. Gotta wonder, if they can't run this
right, how can the Federal Government run it all?


Good question. Twisted Evil

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