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Power Of One
Number of posts: 159 Registration date: 2008-05-13
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:36 pm | |
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|  | | GODSWIZARD Play it LOUD!!

Number of posts: 17975 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:07 pm | |
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|  | | GODSWIZARD Play it LOUD!!

Number of posts: 17975 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:15 pm | |
| BTW I often say "Leftists" and absolutely refuse to say "Liberals".....this is why. I excerpt the following from an essay by Mark Alexander.  In it he explains, as a result of what he says, why I call Leftists......Leftists and not Liberals.  Tyranny v. Liberty (16" x 20" poster available at PatriotShop.US) "Given that bit of history as a backdrop, consider the lexicography of our current political ideology. On the dark side of the spectrum would be Leftists, liberals and tyrants. EDIT: Emphasis mine--(Sidebar: One should not confuse "classical liberalism" with "contemporary liberalism." The former refers to those, like Thomas Jefferson, who advocated individual liberty, while the latter refers to those, like Barack Hussein Obama, who advocate statism, which is the antithesis of liberty.)Statism, as promoted by contemporary American liberals, has as its objective the establishment of a central government authorized as the arbiter of all that is "good" for "the people" -- and conferring upon the State ultimate control over the most significant social manifestation of individual rights, economic enterprise. On the left, all associations between individuals ultimately augment the power and control of the State. The final expression and inevitable terminus of such power and control, if allowed to progress unabated, is tyranny. The word "tyranny" is derived from the Latin "tyrannus," which translates to "illegitimate ruler." Liberals, then, endeavor to undermine our nation's founding principles in order to achieve their statist objectives. However, politicians who have taken an oath to "support and defend" our Constitution, but then govern in clear defiance of that oath, are nothing more than illegitimate rulers, tyrants. EDIT: Emphasis mine--(Sidebar: Some Leftists contend that Communism and Fascism are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. Properly understood, however, both of these forms of government are on the left, because both have as a common end the establishment of an omnipotent state led by a dictator.)These individuals do not describe themselves as "liberal"....they tend to elect ideologically ambivalent politicians who are most adept at cultivating special interest constituencies. Those on the Left tend to form a more unified front for the purpose of electability; they tend to embrace a "win at all costs" philosophy....The Left appeals to the most fundamental human instincts to procure comfort, sustenance and shelter, and to obtain those basic needs by the most expedient means possible. The Left promises that the State will attain those needs equally, creating a path of least resistance for that fulfillment. Clearly, one of these approaches (Leftism) is far easier to sell to those who have been systematically dumbed down by government educational institutions and stripped of their individual dignity by the plethora of government welfare programs. For some nations, this awakening has come too late. The most notable examples in the last century are Russia, Germany, Italy and China, whose peoples suffered greatly under the statist tyrannies they came to embrace. In Germany and Italy, the state collapsed after its expansionist designs were forcibly contained. In Russia, the state collapsed under the weight of 70 years of economic centralization and ideological expansionism. The Red Chinese regime, having witnessed the collapse of the USSR, has so far avoided its own demise by combining an autocratic government with components of a free enterprise economic system. (My contacts in China, including that nation's largest real estate developers and investment fund managers, believe the Red regime will be gone within five years.) EDIT: We shall see, eh?"Our individual salvation," insists Barack Obama, "depends on collective salvation." In other words, BHO's tyranny, et al, must transcend Constitutional authority. And in accordance with his despotic ideals, Obama is now implementing "the fundamental transformation of the United States of America" that he promised his cadre of liberal voters. Accordingly, George Washington advised, "We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times." Indeed we must. Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis! Mark Alexander" There, in a nutshell, is the rationale for my terminology.  _________________ "The 'farce' is strong with Sith Lord Obama-Wan." words of Scourge.
"Uh....You can believe me....Uh....because I never lie, and....Uh....Uh....I am always right." words of Sith Lord Obama-Wan.
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|  | | Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28
 | |  | | GODSWIZARD Play it LOUD!!

Number of posts: 17975 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:18 pm | |
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|  | | Black Rider Man in Morph

Number of posts: 14619 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-04-09
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:20 pm | |
| Excellent point. Reasonable people didn't win our independence for us. _________________ I don't have time for all if it, so I pick my battles. I concentrate on spotting and weeding out satanic paper, handkerchiefs (do you really want Satan that close to your nose?) and eggs. I can spot satanic eggs at Wal Mart like a frickin' drug sniffing dog.
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 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:31 pm | |
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|  | | GODSWIZARD Play it LOUD!!

Number of posts: 17975 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:47 pm | |
| From the busy life of the current POTUS, the Dark Lord. "President Barack Obama says that while he's dedicated to expanding homosexual rights, many Americans still cling to what he calls "worn arguments and old attitudes." At a White House celebration of Gay Pride Month, Obama said he hopes to persuade all Americans to accept homosexuality. ""There are good and decent people in this country who don't yet fully embrace their gay brothers and sisters -- not yet," said the president. "That's why I've spoken about these issues -- not just in front of you -- but in front of unlikely audiences, in front of African-American church members." Obama acknowledged that many Americans still disapprove of homosexuality. "There are still fellow citizens, perhaps neighbors or even family members and loved ones, who still hold fast to worn arguments and old attitudes," he stated. He added that Congress should repeal what Obama referred to as "the so-called Defense of Marriage Act" -- and that his administration is working to pass a hate crimes bill and to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on homosexuals in the military. The audience at the White House ceremony included Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson and other homosexual clergy. Obama introduced Robinson as a "special friend." Well of course he does. As an aside......i'm rather sure my, "worn arguments and old attitudes" come from the Bible.  Well......mayhaps it is time for me to get in step with current American cultural modernity. The obligatory link: http://onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=585846  _________________ "The 'farce' is strong with Sith Lord Obama-Wan." words of Scourge.
"Uh....You can believe me....Uh....because I never lie, and....Uh....Uh....I am always right." words of Sith Lord Obama-Wan.
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|  | | Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:10 pm | |
| | John Gilchrist Lodge wrote: | So you and GW don't care if we have a delusional person leading us? |
We have a person who says he's going to cut the deficit in half, then proceeds to increase the deficit by more than any other president in history. A man who can't see anything wrong with allowing a 747 to circle around New York harbor for an hour. A man who thinks he will defeat Muslim terrorists by setting them free and apologizing for our aggression towards them.
So glad we don't have a delusional person in the White House._________________ “If you make less than $250,000 your taxes will not go up. Not one dime.” BH Obama ''Let me be clear: There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was. The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year -- now,'' Candidate Obama in 2007  |
|  | | GODSWIZARD Play it LOUD!!

Number of posts: 17975 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:42 pm | |
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|  | | GODSWIZARD Play it LOUD!!

Number of posts: 17975 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06
 | |  | | Black Rider Man in Morph

Number of posts: 14619 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-04-09
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:55 pm | |
| | Quote: | | who still hold fast to worn arguments and old attitudes, |
It's going to get real hot for those who continue to do this. Are you ready? _________________ I don't have time for all if it, so I pick my battles. I concentrate on spotting and weeding out satanic paper, handkerchiefs (do you really want Satan that close to your nose?) and eggs. I can spot satanic eggs at Wal Mart like a frickin' drug sniffing dog.
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Number of posts: 272 Registration date: 2008-05-20
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:18 am | |
| Ralph Nader and Denise Kucinich are probably my favorite politicians. I don't care for Ron Paul's fiscal conservatism, but I would vote for him any day over a Democrat like Obama. Ron Paul has never publicly said that he believes 911 was an inside job. Yes, a lot his followers are whacked out! But I'm sure you can find a lot more insanse people who voted for Bush/Obama, because they make up the majority of the population. People laugh at Paul, Kucinich and Nader, because they believe in what they stand for, and they have the track records to prove it. To make a comment like "You have no case" is absurd! This is why we're in the mess we are now! Every 4 years we have politicians who say they stand fimrly on certain issues, but they quickly change their agenda when they're in office. The media likes to portray honest candidates like Ross Perot, Ron Paul, Denise Kucinich and Ralph Nader as morbid clowns, but each one of them has more integrity than the hand picked candidates like Bush/Obama. |
|  | | Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:25 am | |
| | John Gilchrist Lodge wrote: | That was my point. During the last election, many voted for the TOTUS simply because he was "better than that evil Bush." Oh really?
Enjoy your "hope" and "change," America. Guard your souls and watch your wallet. We're stuck between Barack and a hard place.  |
And what was our choice? McCain?
Coming off of eight years of a man who claimed to be a conservative while creating a new cabinet position with all of it's attendant bureaucracy, expanded a badly failing Medicare system, and bought up large quantities of the banking system with the claim that we needed to use socialism to "save capitalism", I was not about to vote for a man who was clearly to the left of Mr. Bush, even if he did have a little r next to his name.
There's your rock and a hard place, the Republicants or the Demoncrats._________________ “If you make less than $250,000 your taxes will not go up. Not one dime.” BH Obama ''Let me be clear: There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was. The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year -- now,'' Candidate Obama in 2007  |
|  | | alldatndensum Mission Of One

Number of posts: 9992 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-01-03
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:27 am | |
| | Quote: | | the Republicants or the Demoncrats. |
Someone is quoting me! I feel honored!_________________  "I have no desire to speak w/other tongues, I already do enough damage w/the one I have!!" - Candlemass |
|  | | Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:28 am | |
| | Daveandstuff wrote: | | Ralph Nader and Denise Kucinich are probably my favorite politicians. |
Don't care for either one's ideas or policies, but they are both clearly very principled men. I respect that.
Unfortunately, we are in a situation where party leaders, aided by the media, have more influence over who we elect than the populace does. Politics is a tightly controlled reality show._________________ “If you make less than $250,000 your taxes will not go up. Not one dime.” BH Obama ''Let me be clear: There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was. The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year -- now,'' Candidate Obama in 2007  |
|  | | Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:29 am | |
| | alldatndensum wrote: | | Quote: | | the Republicants or the Demoncrats. |
Someone is quoting me! I feel honored! |
You should... it's a great line.  _________________ “If you make less than $250,000 your taxes will not go up. Not one dime.” BH Obama ''Let me be clear: There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was. The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year -- now,'' Candidate Obama in 2007  |
|  | | _Wes

Number of posts: 1924 Age: 42 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:41 am | |
| | Tall Tyrion wrote: | | Politics is a tightly controlled reality show. |
Great quote. You nailed it right there. how unfortunate & sad. |
|  | | alldatndensum Mission Of One

Number of posts: 9992 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-01-03
 | Subject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:55 am | |
| | Quote: | | Politics is a tightly controlled surreality show. |
I fixed that for you!_________________  "I have no desire to speak w/other tongues, I already do enough damage w/the one I have!!" - Candlemass |
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