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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Tue May 26, 2009 8:34 pm

Tremont here. By Peoria - kind of . . .

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Wed May 27, 2009 12:16 am

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More test by North Korea. Obama has upped the ante and is bringing donuts along with muffins to the U.N. meeting.



Maybe he should throw his teddy at Kim Jong-il. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Wed May 27, 2009 12:17 am

I made an error in my post before by saying nothing ever changes....umm yeah,one thing did,it is a sad sickening sort of observation, No I guess war is a slightly kinder overlord than abortion in that at least innocent children have a chance to run or crawl away before they are killed..........

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Wed May 27, 2009 12:32 am

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I guess war is a slightly kinder overlord than abortion in that at least innocent children have a chance to run or crawl away before they are killed..........



Interesting. Crying or Very sad





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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Wed May 27, 2009 12:44 am

Yeah,sad,that is the only non"cut and paste" policy he seems to be following through with,and we still get war too,talk about a "raw deal" and the drugs continue to flow.The bully(Saddam) lies dead,but the one we were told was the "killer"(Osama) lives on,if someone killed a member of your family and then ran off,who would you go after first,the killer or the bully down the street........

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Thu May 28, 2009 1:14 am

Some quotes; any comments of mine are boldfaced:

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force."--author Ayn Rand (1905-1982)


"The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded."--French political philosopher C. L. De Montesquieu (1689-1755)


"The soundest argument will produce no more conviction in an empty head than the most superficial declamation; as a feather and a guinea fall with equal velocity in a vacuum."--English cleric and writer Charles Colton (1780-1832)

This last one above is especially true. Neutral


"Like conventional liberals, [Sonia Sotomayor] embraces identity politics, including the idea of categorical representation: A person is what his or her race, ethnicity, gender or sexual preference is, and members of a particular category can be represented -- understood, empathized with -- only by persons of the same identity."--columnist George Will


"Why make this complicated? President Obama prefers Supreme Court justices who will violate their oath of office. And he hopes Sonia Sotomayor is the right Hispanic woman for the job." --columnist Jonah Goldberg


"If you were going to have open heart surgery, would you want to be operated on by a surgeon who was chosen because he had to struggle to get where he is or by the best surgeon you could find-- even if he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and had every advantage that money and social position could offer?"--economist Thomas Sowell

Who BTW happens to be black.


"Since when did securing a Supreme Court seat become a high hurdles contest? The White House and Democrats have turned Second Circuit Judge Sonia Sotomayor's nomination into a personal Olympic event. Pay no attention to her jurisprudence. She grew up in a Bronx public housing project. She was diagnosed with childhood diabetes at 8. Her father died a year later. And, oh, by the way, did you hear that she was poor? It's a 'compelling personal story,' as we heard 20,956 times on Tuesday."--columnist Michelle Malkin

Gotta' love Malkin......she is one sharp lady.


"Despite her remarkable personal odyssey, Judge Sotomayor is already being called a liberal activist by some conservative groups."--NBC's Pete Williams

Er.......maybe because that is what she is. Rolling Eyes


"Well, I thought it was a brilliant piece of work today, the way [the administration] brought [Sotomayor] out. I thought that biography of her, the way it was presented -- my own view -- was it couldn't have been done any better. We now know so much more about this nominee than we've ever known about any nominee in the past and we know it all in one day. ...[H]e wowed us!"--MSNBC's Chris Matthews

WOW CHRIS!! ARE YOUR PANTS STILL DRY?? Question


Liberal judicial philosophy 101: "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."--Judge Sonia Sotomayor in 2001 **"Imagine the reaction if someone had unearthed in 2005 a speech in which then-Judge Samuel Alito had asserted, for example: 'I would hope that a white male with the richness of his traditional American values would reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn't lived that life' -- and had proceeded to speak of 'inherent physiological or cultural differences.'"--columnist Stuart Taylor


"It's interesting because I think in America, we think of the Buddhists especially, but also the Hindus as much more spiritual than we are, people who wouldn't engage in atrocities and things like that. Not really the case, is it?"--HBO's Bill Maher

Wow. Shocked Just......wow. Shocked Ignorance does occasionally manifest itself in human form. scratch

Don't know a whole helluva' lot about either history or current events, do you Bill?? Question

It seems Bill wants to surprise us. Hey Bill......both Buddhists and Hindus are quite adept at, "....atrocities and things like that" in their natural lands and natural conditions of life, throughout their history. Hey Bill.....might I suggest a little learning, reading, and research?? It will do wonders for ya' Bill.


If you take a shot every time you hear the phrase 'compelling life story' [about Sonia Sotomayor] today, you should be out by lunch."--columnist Michelle Malkin


"In his Naval Academy commencement speech, Obama bragged about shooting the Somali pirates in those 'five days in April.' I hear a movie coming: 'Five Days in April -- How a courageous, brave, historic president of the United States personally wiped out three Somali teenagers.'"--radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh


EDIT: Added in a bit more of my own comments.




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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Thu May 28, 2009 1:16 am

One last one *for the road* from the Wall Street Journal (TM):


"In making Sonia Sotomayor his first nominee for the Supreme Court yesterday, President Obama appears to have found the ideal match for his view that personal experience and cultural identity are the better part of judicial wisdom. This isn't a jurisprudence that the Founders would recognize, but it is the creative view that has dominated the law schools since the 1970s and from which both the President and Judge Sotomayor emerged. In the President's now-famous word, judging should be shaped by 'empathy' as much or more than by reason. In this sense, Judge Sotomayor would be a thoroughly modern Justice, one for whom the law is a voyage of personal identity. 'Experience being tested by obstacles and barriers, by hardship and misfortune; experience insisting, persisting, and ultimately overcoming those barriers,' Mr. Obama said yesterday in introducing Ms. Sotomayor. 'It is experience that can give a person a common touch of compassion; an understanding of how the world works and how ordinary people live. And that is why it is a necessary ingredient in the kind of Justice we need on the Supreme Court.' ...[Sotomayor] is a judge steeped in the legal school of identity politics. This is not the same as taking justifiable pride in being the first Puerto Rican-American nominated to the Court, as both she and the President did yesterday. ... Judge Sotomayor's belief is that a 'Latina woman' is by definition a superior judge to a 'white male' because she has had more 'richness' in her struggle. The danger inherent in this judicial view is that the law isn't what the Constitution says but whatever the judge in the 'richness' of her experience comes to believe it should be. ... As the first nominee of a popular President and with 59 Democrats in the Senate, Judge Sotomayor is likely to be confirmed barring some major blunder. But Republicans can use the process as a teaching moment, not to tear down Ms. Sotomayor on personal issues the way the left tried with Justices Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito, but to educate Americans about the proper role of the judiciary and to explore whether Judge Sotomayor's Constitutional principles are as free-form as they seem from her record."--The Wall Street Journal




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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Thu May 28, 2009 10:39 am

So reverse racism wins.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Thu May 28, 2009 1:02 pm

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So reverse racism wins.



With Affirmative Action as official and practiced U.S. Federal and States policy.......it usually does.


Oh.....I just found an article a few minutes ago......that makes me want to say with all the gusto I can muster......"Our current POTUS sucks......long and hard." I'll post the article later......too much to do now.





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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Thu May 28, 2009 5:16 pm

O'ba. K'ba. This is a rather long posted article. Sorry, but it needs to be seen in its entirety in order to get the full effect/full perspective of its author. I ask please, that if you decide to spend the time reading article, you read it all.

Here it is:

"Marine Aviator's Memorial Day Wave Off



[size=12]"The consciousness of having discharged that duty which we owe to our country is superior to all other considerations." --George Washington


Every week, the greatest challenge I face as editor of The Patriot Post is determining which subject among all the current news and policy issues concerning liberty and constitutional integrity should be the target of an essay. I mention this because deep into this week's treatise and just a few hours ahead of deadline, I received a message from one of our Patriot readers that offered a far more powerful perspective on where we are as a nation than anything I'd been writing.

That message was from Mike McGinn, and began: "Only under the administration of a former 'community organizer,' a product of the corrupt Chicago political machine, who never served a day of his life in uniform, could a 20-year retired Marine Corps Officer be prohibited from visiting the Arlington National Cemetery resting place of his father, a 30-year retired Marine Corps Officer with distinguished combat service, on the most hallowed of days for our fallen and deceased military servicemen and women -- Memorial Day."
Interred at Arlington, Section 68 Site 113, are the remains of Mike's father, Marine Colonel James Arthur McGinn. Marine Col. James McGinn

Col. McGinn was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy's Class of '57.

His USNA yearbook notes, "It was virtually impossible to be in Jim's presence for more than five minutes without laughing, even if you had just flunked a double-weight Electrical Engineering quiz. He was a farmer turned city boy who loved a party, a good book, and lots of romance, if and when he could separate himself from the arms of Morpheus."

After graduation, McGinn completed the requisite flight schools and flew the F-8U Crusader out of Marine Corps Air Station El Toro in California. As the war in Vietnam was heating up, then Capt. McGinn transitioned to an aircraft that would move him closer to the action -- the UH-1 Huey helicopter gunship. He flew two tours in Vietnam and earned the Distinguished Flying Cross in 1969.

His DFC citation reads: "For heroism and extraordinary achievement in aerial flight while serving as a Pilot with Marine Light Helicopter Squadron 357, Marine Aircraft Group Thirty-Six, First Marine Aircraft Wing in connection with combat operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 6 March 1969, Major McGinn launched as Wingman in a flight of two armed UH-1E helicopters assigned the mission of supporting a flight of twelve helicopters which was to conduct the medical evacuation of casualties and the resupply of a reconnaissance company that was heavily engaged in combat with a large North Vietnamese Army force deep in enemy-controlled territory. Following a briefing in which he was informed that because of inclement weather the friendly unit had not been resupplied for three days, had run out of rations, and was dangerously low on water and ammunition, Major McGinn ignored the extremely adverse weather conditions as he skillfully maneuvered his aircraft below a fifty foot ceiling to locate the embattled company, and then returned to the Vandegrift Combat Base. Escorting the flight to the beleaguered unit, he established an orbit for the flight above the clouds. Undaunted by the heavy volume of hostile fire directed at his helicopter, Major McGinn then led the transport helicopters one at a time into the precarious area, fearlessly maneuvered his gunship on repeated rocket and strafing runs, and delivered his ordnance upon the North Vietnamese Army positions with such devastating effectiveness that the hostile fire was suppressed sufficiently to enable all the supplies to be delivered and all the casualties to be extracted. Before leaving the dangerous area, he boldly delivered his remaining rockets upon an enemy bunker with such pinpoint accuracy that the emplacement was destroyed. Major McGinn's courage, superior airmanship, and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of great personal danger were instrumental in accomplishing the hazardous mission and were in keeping with the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service."

After serving in Vietnam, Col. McGinn was Commanding Officer of HMA-169 at MCAF Camp Pendleton and flew AH-1 Cobra helicopters. A year later, he became CO of HMM-165 afloat flying CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters. He served additional O-6 billets until his retirement in 1987.

Col. McGinn died on 21 July 2004, at age 69, after waging a 16-month battle with a brain tumor.

Like his father before him, Mike McGinn is a retired Marine aviator. He flew F/A-18 Hornets from 1988 to 2004, including combat tours over Bosnia and during Operation Iraqi Freedom.
He writes, "Each Memorial Day, we go to visit Dad and pay our respects, driving up from Southern Maryland. This is the first time I've been turned away from the Cemetery grounds."
Mike and his wife left their home early Monday morning, expecting to encounter the usual entry delay into the Cemetery grounds for Memorial Day.

Inching their way through traffic that morning Mike and his wife made it to second in line at the entrance checkpoint, with an Arlington National Cemetery access pass and a DoD military officer vehicle sticker clearly displayed on his windshield, when they were abruptly waved off and directed to leave the area immediately. Apparently, Barack Hussein Obama's motorcade was en route for the ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknowns and the area was being locked down for security.

EDIT: Emphasis mine--The McGinns were not turned away on previous Memorial Days when President George Bush arrived to place a wreath at the Tomb, but a lot has changed in the last year.

For the record, while James Arthur McGinn was serving his country and flying Crusaders for the Marine Corps, Ann Dunham (EDIT: OBama--Wan's mother) was giving birth to her son, BHO, Jr., somewhere between Nyanza Province, Kenya, and Honolulu, Hawaii. As Capt. McGinn was preparing for combat in Vietnam, young Barry O was on his way to Indonesia with his mother and her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. As Maj. McGinn was earning his DFC, BO was converting to Islam, even though his mother was an avowed atheist. As Maj. McGinn was returning from Vietnam, BO was returning from Indonesia for an elite private school education in Honolulu, where he was mentored by Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis. As Col. McGinn was completing his Marine billets, BO was attending Occidental College and then Columbia University; a period of Obama's life that to this day remains shrouded in mystery and devoid of college transcripts.


In 1994, as Mike McGinn was launching in his F/A-18 for combat tours over Bosnia, Obama was in Chicago, being mentored by Jeremiah Wright, and Marxist Weather Underground terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were, in turn, launching BO's political career. In 2003, when Mike was flying missions over Iraq, the "community organizer" was on a mission to be elected to the U.S. Senate with the help of John Kerry and other treasonous Leftists. The rest is, as they say, history...

So, as combat veteran Mike McGinn was in line to visit the gravesite of his heroic father this week, a wastrel and hard-left community organizer was having lanes cleared for his presidential motorcade.

That notwithstanding, let me say to both James and Mike McGinn, on behalf of your fellow Patriots across this grateful nation, Fideli Certa Merces -- "to the faithful there is certain reward," as noted on all Marine Honorable Discharge orders.
May the "consciousness of having discharged that duty" be and remain, "superior to all other considerations."

Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis!

Mark Alexander"


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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Thu May 28, 2009 6:16 pm

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"It's interesting because I think in America, we think of the Buddhists especially, but also the Hindus as much more spiritual than we are, people who wouldn't engage in atrocities and things like that. Not really the case, is it?"--HBO's Bill Maher

Wow. Shocked Just......wow. Shocked Ignorance does occasionally manifest itself in human form. scratch

Don't know a whole helluva' lot about either history or current events, do you Bill?? Question

It seems Bill wants to surprise us. Hey Bill......both Buddhists and Hindus are quite adept at, "....atrocities and things like that" in their natural lands and natural conditions of life, throughout their history. Hey Bill.....might I suggest a little learning, reading, and research?? It will do wonders for ya' Bill.




The way I'm reading it, seems like that's exactly what he was getting at....He's saying that we (americans in general) think of Buddhists and Hindus as less likely to engage in atrocities, but that isn't the case. He's pointing out that the Western assumption about people who practive "eastern spirituality" is in fact false.....

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Thu May 28, 2009 7:21 pm

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The way I'm reading it, seems like that's exactly what he was getting at....He's saying that we (americans in general) think of Buddhists and Hindus as less likely to engage in atrocities, but that isn't the case. He's pointing out that the Western assumption about people who practive "eastern spirituality" is in fact false.....


True.

Agreed.




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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Thu May 28, 2009 10:03 pm

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O'ba. K'ba. This is a rather long posted article. Sorry, but it needs to be seen in its entirety in order to get the full effect/full perspective of its author. I ask please, that if you decide to spend the time reading article, you read it all.

Here it is:

"Marine Aviator's Memorial Day Wave Off



[size=12]"The consciousness of having discharged that duty which we owe to our country is superior to all other considerations." --George Washington


Every week, the greatest challenge I face as editor of The Patriot Post is determining which subject among all the current news and policy issues concerning liberty and constitutional integrity should be the target of an essay. I mention this because deep into this week's treatise and just a few hours ahead of deadline, I received a message from one of our Patriot readers that offered a far more powerful perspective on where we are as a nation than anything I'd been writing.

That message was from Mike McGinn, and began: "Only under the administration of a former 'community organizer,' a product of the corrupt Chicago political machine, who never served a day of his life in uniform, could a 20-year retired Marine Corps Officer be prohibited from visiting the Arlington National Cemetery resting place of his father, a 30-year retired Marine Corps Officer with distinguished combat service, on the most hallowed of days for our fallen and deceased military servicemen and women -- Memorial Day."
Interred at Arlington, Section 68 Site 113, are the remains of Mike's father, Marine Colonel James Arthur McGinn. Marine Col. James McGinn

Col. McGinn was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy's Class of '57.

His USNA yearbook notes, "It was virtually impossible to be in Jim's presence for more than five minutes without laughing, even if you had just flunked a double-weight Electrical Engineering quiz. He was a farmer turned city boy who loved a party, a good book, and lots of romance, if and when he could separate himself from the arms of Morpheus."

After graduation, McGinn completed the requisite flight schools and flew the F-8U Crusader out of Marine Corps Air Station El Toro in California. As the war in Vietnam was heating up, then Capt. McGinn transitioned to an aircraft that would move him closer to the action -- the UH-1 Huey helicopter gunship. He flew two tours in Vietnam and earned the Distinguished Flying Cross in 1969.

His DFC citation reads: "For heroism and extraordinary achievement in aerial flight while serving as a Pilot with Marine Light Helicopter Squadron 357, Marine Aircraft Group Thirty-Six, First Marine Aircraft Wing in connection with combat operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 6 March 1969, Major McGinn launched as Wingman in a flight of two armed UH-1E helicopters assigned the mission of supporting a flight of twelve helicopters which was to conduct the medical evacuation of casualties and the resupply of a reconnaissance company that was heavily engaged in combat with a large North Vietnamese Army force deep in enemy-controlled territory. Following a briefing in which he was informed that because of inclement weather the friendly unit had not been resupplied for three days, had run out of rations, and was dangerously low on water and ammunition, Major McGinn ignored the extremely adverse weather conditions as he skillfully maneuvered his aircraft below a fifty foot ceiling to locate the embattled company, and then returned to the Vandegrift Combat Base. Escorting the flight to the beleaguered unit, he established an orbit for the flight above the clouds. Undaunted by the heavy volume of hostile fire directed at his helicopter, Major McGinn then led the transport helicopters one at a time into the precarious area, fearlessly maneuvered his gunship on repeated rocket and strafing runs, and delivered his ordnance upon the North Vietnamese Army positions with such devastating effectiveness that the hostile fire was suppressed sufficiently to enable all the supplies to be delivered and all the casualties to be extracted. Before leaving the dangerous area, he boldly delivered his remaining rockets upon an enemy bunker with such pinpoint accuracy that the emplacement was destroyed. Major McGinn's courage, superior airmanship, and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of great personal danger were instrumental in accomplishing the hazardous mission and were in keeping with the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service."

After serving in Vietnam, Col. McGinn was Commanding Officer of HMA-169 at MCAF Camp Pendleton and flew AH-1 Cobra helicopters. A year later, he became CO of HMM-165 afloat flying CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters. He served additional O-6 billets until his retirement in 1987.

Col. McGinn died on 21 July 2004, at age 69, after waging a 16-month battle with a brain tumor.

Like his father before him, Mike McGinn is a retired Marine aviator. He flew F/A-18 Hornets from 1988 to 2004, including combat tours over Bosnia and during Operation Iraqi Freedom.
He writes, "Each Memorial Day, we go to visit Dad and pay our respects, driving up from Southern Maryland. This is the first time I've been turned away from the Cemetery grounds."
Mike and his wife left their home early Monday morning, expecting to encounter the usual entry delay into the Cemetery grounds for Memorial Day.

Inching their way through traffic that morning Mike and his wife made it to second in line at the entrance checkpoint, with an Arlington National Cemetery access pass and a DoD military officer vehicle sticker clearly displayed on his windshield, when they were abruptly waved off and directed to leave the area immediately. Apparently, Barack Hussein Obama's motorcade was en route for the ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknowns and the area was being locked down for security.

EDIT: Emphasis mine--The McGinns were not turned away on previous Memorial Days when President George Bush arrived to place a wreath at the Tomb, but a lot has changed in the last year.

For the record, while James Arthur McGinn was serving his country and flying Crusaders for the Marine Corps, Ann Dunham (EDIT: OBama--Wan's mother) was giving birth to her son, BHO, Jr., somewhere between Nyanza Province, Kenya, and Honolulu, Hawaii. As Capt. McGinn was preparing for combat in Vietnam, young Barry O was on his way to Indonesia with his mother and her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. As Maj. McGinn was earning his DFC, BO was converting to Islam, even though his mother was an avowed atheist. As Maj. McGinn was returning from Vietnam, BO was returning from Indonesia for an elite private school education in Honolulu, where he was mentored by Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis. As Col. McGinn was completing his Marine billets, BO was attending Occidental College and then Columbia University; a period of Obama's life that to this day remains shrouded in mystery and devoid of college transcripts.


In 1994, as Mike McGinn was launching in his F/A-18 for combat tours over Bosnia, Obama was in Chicago, being mentored by Jeremiah Wright, and Marxist Weather Underground terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were, in turn, launching BO's political career. In 2003, when Mike was flying missions over Iraq, the "community organizer" was on a mission to be elected to the U.S. Senate with the help of John Kerry and other treasonous Leftists. The rest is, as they say, history...

So, as combat veteran Mike McGinn was in line to visit the gravesite of his heroic father this week, a wastrel and hard-left community organizer was having lanes cleared for his presidential motorcade.

That notwithstanding, let me say to both James and Mike McGinn, on behalf of your fellow Patriots across this grateful nation, Fideli Certa Merces -- "to the faithful there is certain reward," as noted on all Marine Honorable Discharge orders.
May the "consciousness of having discharged that duty" be and remain, "superior to all other considerations."

Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis!

Mark Alexander"


I love the Sith Lord Obama--Wan.


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Sickening,absolutely sickening,this is why on Memorial Day,I drove to work(retail never sleeps !) blasting Metallica's "Disposable Heroes".I know I am in the extreme minority in my thinking,and I accept that ,but until someone gives me absolute proof otherwise,I will continue to wonder how many brave,well meaning soldiers are going to die.......over profit from drugs.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Fri May 29, 2009 7:51 am

My wife was watching some channel last night that had Obama's "Green Czar" on. He was indoctrinating a bunch of Student Leadership kids in how bad the Bush admin was, and how good Obama is. Of course he isn't biased. One thing I loved, was he made a comment on how a lot of people try to point the finger at China and how much they are polluting the environment. Of course, his answer was that it isn't China's fault, it's ours, cause we buy their goods. I wonder if our manufactureers would be able to get away with that response?

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Fri May 29, 2009 10:02 am

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Fri May 29, 2009 11:50 am

Did you see that article today about a Black female reporter that was dragged away by her hands and feet by the secrt service just because she wanted to give the president a letter in support of traditional marriage?

Freedom of expression, freedom of the press?

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Fri May 29, 2009 1:31 pm

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My wife was watching some channel last night that had Obama's "Green Czar" on. He was indoctrinating a bunch of Student Leadership kids in how bad the Bush admin was, and how good Obama is. Of course he isn't biased. One thing I loved, was he made a comment on how a lot of people try to point the finger at China and how much they are polluting the environment. Of course, his answer was that it isn't China's fault, it's ours, cause we buy their goods. I wonder if our manufactureers would be able to get away with that response?



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No....i've not seen that (yet) STRUTTER. However, i've gone nowhere else on the web, yet. I got on the PC and came right here to the CMR.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Fri May 29, 2009 3:47 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Fri May 29, 2009 4:11 pm

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Did you see that article today about a Black female reporter that was dragged away by her hands and feet by the secrt service just because she wanted to give the president a letter in support of traditional marriage?

Freedom of expression, freedom of the press?



Yup, saw it, and I agree with the decision the Secret Service made in the interest of the physical security of the President of the United States. The behavior of the reporter, Brenda Lee, gave them every reason to be suspect of her, and to remove her from the premises as a potential threat. If they had removed someone from the premises, and found the contents of the envelope to be laced with a toxic or biological contaminant(say...anthrax, or ricin), rather than a letter "in support of traditional marriage", the Secret Service agents would be recieving praise and accolades, rather than the scorn they are in some corners.....If this had been a credentialed reporter with NRA membership, attempting to hand off a handgun in a box as a "gift" for the President, how far would you expect him/her to get? Or should the Secret Service just take this person at their word that the contents of the gift box are harmless, and let the person hand the box to the President, risking that the "nice reporter" may just have a round in the chamber of the "gift", and intend to use it? Or that the "gift" is in fact a small explosive device, that will be detonated during the exchange?







It's disgusting to me that this woman is HIDING behind "freedom of the press" and "freedom of expression". There is not a single citizen in this country that can expect to be able to just walk up to the President, and hand off an envelope, with unfettered access to do so, press credentials or not, "freedom of expression" or not. It just doesn't happen, and, additionally, by trying to do this, she stepped away from her role as "journalist", as she was not reporting on the events, and stepped into the shoes of an "activist", and thusly, "freedom of the press" isn't being properly applied as a defense for her.


No, this whole incident simply is NOT about the supposed contents of the letter...it's about the woman's behavior, and refusal to co-operate with the requests of the Secret Service that REQUIRED them to treat her as a potential threat......There are procedures and protocol that the Secret Service follow and those transcend administrations.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama administration discussion thread   Fri May 29, 2009 4:30 pm

Exo is 100% correct.

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