A couple of points:

1. On "The Religion of Death"

alldatndensum wrote:

Leftism - The Religion of Death

I would avoid using such a gross generalization in debates. I am a center-left Christian and I believe in the ideology of Consistent Life Ethic. I don't intend to brag but I'm as pro-life as they get (even more than your typical right-winger). I also know that that there are many left-wing Christians who feel the same way I do. Personally I believe that "the religion of death" encompasses both certain left-wing and certain right-wing ideologies.

2. I can see the benefits of legalizing abortion. However, the negatives outweigh the benefits in this case. One of those aborted babies could of been the person who found a cure for cancer. If you'll forgive me for using a shallow example, I remember reading that Bruce Dickinson was a failed abortion. without him, who knows if Maiden would be as great as it is today?

3.

GODSWIZARD wrote:

Quote: It's the parents who DO NOT WANT the child. Survival of the fittest. Can I amend that a little bit?? Can I?? Can I?? O.K. here goes: "It's the parents who DO NOT WANT the child. Survival of the morally dead inside." There.......sounds more accurate.

Agreed. If you really "must" get rid of your child then put them up for adoption. It's a helluva lot more humane than abortion and you maybe you'll bring happiness to a couple who can't reproduce.

4.

Tall Tyrion wrote:

Regardless of your religious view, biologically life begins at conception. There is no other place for it to begin, because an individual person is identified by their DNA, which is set at the moment of conception and never changes. Anything else is arbitary opinion (3 months, six months, before birth, after birth, etc...)

Yahtzee! (I'm getting sick of bingo! )

5. Only on CMR could we turn a discussion about abortion into a discussion about Lincoln's motivation for the American Civil War.

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Metalheadz said:

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1. On "The Religion of Death" alldatndensum wrote: Leftism - The Religion of Death I would avoid using such a gross generalization in debates.

Agreed.


Besides.....that is Islam. There are some Muslims that will get downright antagonistic about confusing the two. That *honor* should belong to Islam alone.



TallT said:

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metalheadz wrote: 5. Only on CMR could we turn a discussion about abortion into a discussion about Lincoln's motivation for the American Civil War. That is rather far afield, isn't it? No less interesting a subject, though, provided we can keep it civil; which so far, it (mainly) is.

Was that a pun??


Huh??


"Civil" discussion......American Civil War??

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Not really....

Oh wait, I mean yes! It was deliberate!

Lucky for us, this subject could have Gone bad fast but it has stayed pretty nice. Get it? Huh?
Hey, put down the rotten tomatoes guys.........guys.............

I was just Ash... errr... asking a question....

Black Rider said:

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Lucky for us, this subject could have Gone bad fast but it has stayed pretty nice. Get it? Huh?

Yeah......I *catch yer' drift*.


Is it not just amazing how nicely conversations move along when truth, common sense, and Christian ideas of morality drive the convo??


Go figure. What a concept.

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Good discussion - actually.

& I agree.

The public's faith in the Obama administration is already waning.
Support for the stimulus bill has gone down and Obama's approval
numbers have slipped. Congressional approval ratings are in the
basement, of course:

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The poll released Wednesday also found public support dipped slightly in the past month for the $787 billion package of tax cuts and government spending President Barack Obama signed into law this week on the promise that it will save or create 3.5 million jobs and re-ignite the economy. Support for the economic stimulus plan, which Obama signed Tuesday, was at 52 percent, compared with 55 percent last month. About a month into his new job as president, Obama's approval rating was at 67 percent, a slight dip from the 74 percent he received before his Jan. 20 inauguration. By comparison, just 31 percent approved of Congress' job performance, up seven points from December.

source

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From ^^^^ above ^^^^:

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The public's faith in the Obama administration is already waning.

Yeah.....true.


I asked him to come to my house and plunge the clogged toilet in the downstairs bathroom. I even have a nice thick plunger......one that won't turn inside out......or splash yucky--icky--poo toilet water on you as you plunge.


But......but he refused.


Oh.....he can hand out trillions, gazillions of unbacked $$dollars$$ left and right.....to all kinds of people and organizations.....some of them who deserved the $$money$$ as much as Hitler deserved a Rabbinic blessing IMO (you catch my satiric drift?? ).


But......he can't come and unclog my toilet when I need him to.

My support is already starting to wane.

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And after giving you all that hope...

That knife cuts the deepest...

And then the "hope" will drain away!

Oh noes!

What a dee-lightful analogy.


You said:

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And then the "hope" will drain away!

And I thought that the "hope" all "will drain away" to the same exact place as the contents of my plunged toilet.


You are so good with words.


What an accurate analogy.

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I'm still trying to decide if it's a curse or a gift.

Kind of like the One Ring.

It's a gift.


Just don't let your wife see it too much.


It's like with my satire and cynicism.


Debbie says, "Why must you always be so satirical and nasty Greg?? "

Greg replies to Debbie, "It is a gift honey. I must use the gift or it goes wasted. GOD gave me the gift and expects it to be used. "

Debbie says to Greg, "Come here and i'll beat the gift out of you. "

(Greg quickly leaves the room and retreats to his headphones)


And yes......we've had the above exchange many, many times in 30+ years of marriage.

I think my Mrs. has the same gift

I would not be surprised.