NASCAR

bikergirl · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:39 am

Arttie: Yeah, it does take some of the excitement outta it. But the advance scoring with the computerized scoring loops embedded in the track and chips in each car make it easy to virtually freeze the field. They say it really is safer for any stranded/still car.

Kuba: Sorry it took a minute to get back to ya. I was double-checking some websites. (I've got 'em all noted as Favs without the real addresses for me to see!) Check speedtv.com; under Nascar you'll find the cutaway car link. Great for basic bits on everything about the cars!!

In 1988, Awesome Bill (Elliott) from Dawsonville had a break through season, reaching 200+m miles per hour routinely. Other teams were also breaking records and speeds were climbing radically. Several severe wrecks, and NASCAR knew they had to do something for safety. Of course, the teams didn't want any limits.

Restrictor plates was the compromise. Before the races at Daytona and Talladega (the fastest superspeedways), NASCAR allows teams to pull a restrictor plate outta a hat. NASCAR builds the plates, everyone pulls them randomly. That way there is no favortism and no one can *play* with the plates to adjust them from specs.

The plate itself is fairly simple, a sheet of aluminum with exactly sized holes bored completely through. It fits between the carburetor and the intake manifold. It limits power and speed on the same engine the team created for every other race, saving them that hastle and expense.

The curse of the plate is it limits power and speed bringing everyone's car to nearly the same level. Add that to the hugh impact wind flow has on the COT/modern car and...
*the cars can't really pass, no one has any extra *umph*
*anyone without a drafting partner (cars in a railroad train figuration, close enough that the wind treats them as one entity) will be left far behind, not able to fight the wind and keep up to speed
*wrecks are big and affect multiple teams because all the cars are traveling in a pack
*pit stops must be coordinated with a drafting partner or you'll never re-join the race (see above, lack of speed)

Is that TMI?

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rush75228 · Number of posts: 276 Age: 53 Registration date: 2007-04-10

I like nascar some but seems like a lot of the time it is the same guys winning over and over..and some never win..

scottmitchell74 · Number of posts: 4950 Age: 35 Registration date: 2007-03-07

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Funny that it should be called non-athletic, given the stresses placed on the body of the driver by that sport.

Stresses placed on body does not = sport.

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**alldatndensum** · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:20 am

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If you've never seen it, live, you don't get it. Television does it no justice. Until you go to Taladega and watch 30 cars whiz by within feet of each other at over 195mph, you simply can't fathom the sport involved.

Then I will never get it. Just going around in circles is a snoozefest to me. Put them out on the open road with multiple left and right turns, and then we're talking!

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Funny that it should be called non-athletic, given the stresses placed on the body of the driver by that sport.

My joke was aimed more at the fans than the drivers. In Tennessee, you will see whole families decked from head to toe (literally) with Nascar gear on. You will see a bunch of stereotypical rednecks this way complete with beer guts and no teeth. While it may appeal to the intellectual crowd in some areas, that's not the crowd you draw in Bristol.

You still have people here that have memorials to Dale Earnheart on the back windows of their pickup trucks. Sometimes, you just have to let go. He was just a man--not god of the track.

I wouldn't be so hard on the fans or the sport if it weren't for the whole "religion aspect" of it. In Tennessee, the two largest religions are football and Nascar. I've seen too many people skip church to watch a game or a race and then tell other people that they need to be in church on Sundays.

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**Black Rider** · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:14 am

I keep track of some Nascar, did more so in the 90's when Gordon ruled the track and I wonder if he has one more title in him.

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**Black Rider** · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:15 am

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Funny that it should be called non-athletic, given the stresses placed on the body of the driver by that sport.

Stresses placed on body does not = sport.

That's so true otherwise overeating would be a sport.

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Kuba · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:15 pm

Gotta love that Mark Martin!! The old man don't play!!

Thank you Bikergirl my friend for the low down on the restrictor plates, I think I get it now.. It helps keep everyone even like the salary cap in the NFL, plus it also help cut down on injuries and wrecks..

Right??

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GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:24 pm

Meh......thinking of the posts on this page both pro--NASCAR and con--NASCAR....... scratch

If ya' like it.....you like it. Twisted Evil

If ya' don't like it.....you don't like it. Evil or Very Mad

I fall in the "don't like" category. Evil or Very Mad

Snoozefest--O--rama. Sleep

Like Alldat said......

going

around

and around

in circles

= Greg finding something else to do besides watch NASCAR. scratch

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theAcorn · Number of posts: 2807 Registration date: 2007-04-16

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Then I will never get it. Just going around in
circles is a snoozefest to me. Put them out on the open road with
multiple left and right turns, and then we're talking!

But there is more to it that going in circles... Seriously.

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GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:20 pm

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But there is more to it that going in circles... Seriously.

Yeah......they go in circles really, really, really fast. Shocked

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GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:24 pm

Hey.......here's an idea. Twisted Evil

Let the NASCAR driver of your choice see how many Roman Imperial cohorts he can blast through at 175 MPH before a well thrown legionary pilum finds its mark and kills the driver, thereby ending his deadly rampage. scratch

I'd watch that......and cheer on the Romans. cheers

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Kuba · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:13 pm

If people do not like NASCAR it is interesting that they would be drawn to a NASCAR thread...

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GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:34 pm

We can't help it.

Drugs are bad for you too.

But still......

O.K. I'll try hard to stay out.

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scottmitchell74 · Number of posts: 4950 Age: 35 Registration date: 2007-03-07

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If people do not like NASCAR it is interesting that they would be drawn to a NASCAR thread...

Now that's a good point.

NASCAR fans, however, are particularly fun.......sport.

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KingsRite · Number of posts: 1544 Age: 39 Registration date: 2008-07-23

Daytona & Talladega is some of the best racing of the year.

The cars are pretty much within a few feet of each other the entire race.

Some of the newer tracks are very "cookie cutter" and I find those races boring.

These are the tracks were somebody gets like a 8-10 sec. lead over the rest of the field.

Bristol is a good race, as well as the road courses.
I'm a sophisticated "HillBilly" and I'm currently getting edubacated. study

The twins ought' to be good Thursday.

KingsRite

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bikergirl · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:16 pm

I still miss North Wilkesboro!!

I could do without the cookie cutter tracks too!!!

I LOVE the Bullring!! and 'Dega!!
Not so fond of the road courses.

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**alldatndensum** · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:40 pm

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If people do not like NASCAR it is interesting that they would be drawn to a NASCAR thread...

We are Post-a-holics. It's what we do. You could talk about navel lint and we'd post. I think I HAVE actually talked about that on several occasions.

Besides, we have a right to voice our dislike as long as we aren't insulting those of you who watch this. We can't help it if you have no lives! Just Joking

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KingsRite · Number of posts: 1544 Age: 39 Registration date: 2008-07-23

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**arttieTHE1manparty** · Subject: Re: NASCAR Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:22 pm

Bill Elliott was the MAN! Guy was crazy fast....

Arttie

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bikergirl · Subject: Re: NASCAR Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:15 am

Just Circles?!? - no

What does last year's notes say about car set-up?
What does the wind tunnel say?
What does the seven-post shaker say?
Stickers or Scuffs?
Short pit? Pit? Stay out?
Gas and Go? Two Tires? Four Tires?
Any Tear-off left?
Draft partners? When to dump them?
Camber? Wedge? Track Bar? Sway Bar?
High Line? Low Line? Fastest for now Line?
Diamond a corner?
Loose? Tight? What combo of each can I drive with?
Track position?
Avoiding the Big One?
Qualifing engine? Race engine?
Back-up car?
How good's my engine builder? my driver? my pit crew? my crew chief?

Strategy wins the race. Like any other sport, you don't fully appreciate it until you know, understand and can follow the strategy.

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