What you've quoted there from Schaeffer:

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Edward Gibbon in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" said that the following five attributes marked Rome at its end: 1st A mounting love of show and luxury, 2nd A widening gap between the very rich and the very poor, 3rd An obsession with sex, 4th Freakishness in the arts, masquerading as originality, and enthusiasms pretending to be creativity, 5th An increased desire to live off the state.

*Rings a bell*, eh?? Bingo......to all of it.

My two very favorite Christian authors are Francis Schaeffer and Arthur Custance. The knowledge and wisdom GOD blessed them with...... Wow.

Back to Schaeffer and what you've quoted......the parallels between the later Roman Empire and its downfall in the West, the half based out of Rome, remember the Eastern half based out of Constantinople lasted for another thousand years......those parallels between the Western Roman Empire and contemporary America are......troubling, to say the least.


And.....my question still stands:

"If you were a Roman soldier......a legionary or cavalryman......would you want to wear a sporran, or could and would you rather do without it??

In a sentence or two, give your answer and reasoning for it.

Then I will tell you how I would answer. "

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Points:


1.

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Yeah. I didn't quote the next sentence: It all sounds so familiar. And, yes, it does......And he was writting that in 1975.

I graduated from high school in 1975. Long time ago.


2. My second point......Schaeffer's five parallel points between the fall of Western Rome and late 20th Century America.......heh, it's only gotten worse in those five listed examples, since 1975.

Schaeffer's quote, "It all sounds so familiar."......er.....that is an understatement.


3. Or not!! Pass the bong and shut up!! You talk too much Brewer.

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"Uh....You can believe me....Uh....because I never lie, and....Uh....Uh....I am always right." words of Sith Lord Obama-Wan.

Daddy likes it all, the DraíodóirDé likes it all

BTW my question still stands:

"If you were a Roman soldier......a legionary or cavalryman......would you want to wear a sporran, or could and would you rather do without it??

In a sentence or two, give your answer and reasoning for it.

Then I will tell you how I would answer. "


I'm waiting.

No, purses are for women.

So you like purses, so what?

Is that your answer??


"No"

Here's a nice one for you. Holds all your, night on the town, accessories and goes well with your heels.

I do want a couple of these.

Black Rider said:

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I do want a couple of these.

Those are pugio. Daggers. Kinda' short, but they do the job. Cutting.



O.K. this is a sporran. First, I am going to talk about the picture and then show it. This is a picture of the military style of belt worn by a Roman soldier, either legionary or cavalryman. It is referred to, usually, as a cingulum. That term is somewhat of a modern term to refer to something the Latins simply referred to as a balteus.

On the black leather balteus are a series of embossed brass plates which have the pictures of different Roman Emperors on them. The pugio and scabbard for the pugio are of a standard Roman pattern blade and scabbard. Finally, to the left of the pugio and its scabbard is the sporran.

The sporran was a groin protector. It is composed of leather strips that hang down from the balteus. These leather strips are covered with the brass circular discs that you see. At the very bottom of the sporran are the brass fittings that give 'weight' to the sporran and help it to stay down in front of the soldier's groin area. I made a comment about wearing a "double sporran" in a post above, where I was mimicking Linus' anger. In reality, however, it was occasionally documented where a Roman soldier would have two sporran hanging from his balteus, one over the other. Heh, if I were in the Roman Army, I would wear two sporran over my groin if I could get away with it.

The balteus (or cingulum), pugio and scabbard, and sporran, all with brass embossed plates:

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"The 'farce' is strong with Sith Lord Obama-Wan." words of Scourge.

"Uh....You can believe me....Uh....because I never lie, and....Uh....Uh....I am always right." words of Sith Lord Obama-Wan.

Daddy likes it all, the DraíodóirDé likes it all

"Harumph!!"


I had to answer my own question about the sporran.


"Harumph!!"


Here is the next question about the Roman Army:

What were the Legion identification numbers of the three Legions lost in the Teutoburger Wald??

And for bonus points (valuable in winning a polka compilation CD) what did the, then......at that time of the Battle of the Teutoburger Wald, Roman Emperor say when he was told of the three Legions' destruction??

1 answer: 1, 2, & 3

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what did the, then......at that time of the Battle of the Teutoburger Wald, Roman Emperor say when he was told of the three Legions' destruction??

He said, "What the (add colorful little four letter word here)!?!?"

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You make GW very, very sad.

You nailed it, L8t! Someone give that man a cigar!