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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Age : 45 Joined : 08 Apr 2007 Posts : 1683
 | Subject: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:26 pm | |
| I've been around quite a few message boards, I've rarely seen locked threads at non-christian sites, and members are extended far more grace at these other boards. I think this can be attributed to christians like to sweep things under the rug, this holds true for churches as well as message boards. When things get a little heated, rather then deal w/it, they simply want to make it go away and go back to living in "Jesus Land"!  |
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empyrealsymphony

Age : 40 Joined : 17 Jul 2007 Posts : 3005
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:40 pm | |
|  _________________ "It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you are not."
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Age : 45 Joined : 08 Apr 2007 Posts : 1683
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:41 pm | |
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Angel with Attitude The Emperor Has No Clothes

Joined : 09 Apr 2007 Posts : 2771
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:42 pm | |
| hmmm... whatever could have been dealt with in the heated dept in PM has not been... ALSO the difference between a joke that is tasteless and beyond absurd OR practical useful discussion on a touchy sexual issue is FAR different from saying... I represent Christ but insist that people who follow the plain teaching of Scripture on a plainly obvious matter are hypocrites. I'm perturbed that the Deer Lord thread was locked, as it wasn't about Norm or what he thinks or what others think of him, but about correcting a problem with my friend. I don't agree at all with the tone it was offerred in but I do think it wasn't out of line to propose to Norm if the standard (actually NON-standard) he sees is perfectly okay should be applied to his daughter as well. I think he has already expressed that he's given her the info she needs and will respect her decison to have pre-marital sexx if she thinks that's what she wants to do. I do think if anyone has some sort of unorthodoxx seeming conviction, that one should offer it, choose to refute the objections or not and then.... let it be. This constant crying about hypocrisy when others won't accept it, is weak. _________________ only symbols can be twisted ,burned,spat on etc.NOTHING truly Holy can be desecrated.....
Courage in women is often mistaken for insanity |
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Angel with Attitude The Emperor Has No Clothes

Joined : 09 Apr 2007 Posts : 2771
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:47 pm | |
| P.s. I'm also sick of hearing about how this or that person supports Norm *fully* in PM, as an addition to that boo-hooing when not getting agreement. _________________ only symbols can be twisted ,burned,spat on etc.NOTHING truly Holy can be desecrated.....
Courage in women is often mistaken for insanity |
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Age : 45 Joined : 08 Apr 2007 Posts : 1683
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:50 pm | |
| As far as pre-marital sex is concerned, most christians condemn it, however many participate!  |
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scottmitchell74

Age : 34 Joined : 06 Mar 2007 Posts : 3813
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:53 pm | |
| LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!!!! _________________ Hey kid!
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Age : 45 Joined : 08 Apr 2007 Posts : 1683
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:55 pm | |
| | scottmitchell74 wrote: | | LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!!!! |
It's all but inevitable!  |
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Angel with Attitude The Emperor Has No Clothes

Joined : 09 Apr 2007 Posts : 2771
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:02 pm | |
| | Quote: | | It's all but inevitable! |
Not really...
| Quote: | As far as pre-marital sex is concerned, most christians condemn it, however many participate!
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Yes and choices have consequences, of which I am living proof. I really don't think the understanding is always clear. When we say 'right' or 'wrong', it is usually a means to one-upmanshipp. I think prohibitng something has reason behind it where G-d is concerned and I think He would prefer us to be free of care of the consequences that can result from making poor choices. We can choose like everyone else or we can choose better for ourselves and our children. This is a constant theme running through the OT, like it or not. _________________ only symbols can be twisted ,burned,spat on etc.NOTHING truly Holy can be desecrated.....
Courage in women is often mistaken for insanity |
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alldatndensum Mission Of One

Age : 38 Joined : 03 Jan 2007 Posts : 5515
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:04 pm | |
| The Huckabee thread I closed due to the whole discussion was going in circles. With our history, it was just going to be a big slam fest. I closed it, and I will stand by that decision. If anyone disagrees, take it to the Admins.
As far as people being unhappy with the Deer Lord thread being closed, I will undo it. Post away. Maybe I was a little click happy. _________________

"Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does." |
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empyrealsymphony

Age : 40 Joined : 17 Jul 2007 Posts : 3005
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:07 pm | |
| | Angel with Attitude wrote: | | I'm perturbed that the Deer Lord thread was locked, as it wasn't about Norm or what he thinks or what others think of him, but about correcting a problem with my friend. |
Then why did you use my name in your very first sentence? My name was used by two other posters on that thread as well.
| Quote: | | I don't agree at all with the tone it was offerred in but I do think it wasn't out of line to propose to Norm if the standard (actually NON-standard) he sees is perfectly okay should be applied to his daughter as well. |
I have been corrosponding with 5minutes regarding that issue through PM. I would be glad to repost my answers here if you would like to see them. I honestly have no clue why that thread was locked. _________________ "It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you are not."
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Angel with Attitude The Emperor Has No Clothes

Joined : 09 Apr 2007 Posts : 2771
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:10 pm | |
| | Quote: | | The Huckabee thread I closed due to the whole discussion was going in circles. With our history, it was just going to be a big slam fest. I closed it, and I will stand by that decision. If anyone disagrees, take it to the Admins. |
Support!
| Quote: | | As far as people being unhappy with the Deer Lord thread being closed, I will undo it. Post away. Maybe I was a little click happy. |
It's hard to say.. I don't fault you for doing so at the time. IF the thread can continue as to the original subject and NOT: -Norm boo-hooing -People falling for it and telling him what a reprobate he is, I'd like it to continue. As it stands no one has said much in terms of the argument this dood is offerring my friend. I won't be bugged at all if it won't work out and should be locked. _________________ only symbols can be twisted ,burned,spat on etc.NOTHING truly Holy can be desecrated.....
Courage in women is often mistaken for insanity |
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empyrealsymphony

Age : 40 Joined : 17 Jul 2007 Posts : 3005
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:11 pm | |
| | Angel with Attitude wrote: | | Quote: | | The Huckabee thread I closed due to the whole discussion was going in circles. With our history, it was just going to be a big slam fest. I closed it, and I will stand by that decision. If anyone disagrees, take it to the Admins. |
Support! |
Why is this not surprising. _________________ "It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you are not."
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alldatndensum Mission Of One

Age : 38 Joined : 03 Jan 2007 Posts : 5515
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:13 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Why is this not surprising. |
Explain, please. _________________

"Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does." |
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Age : 45 Joined : 08 Apr 2007 Posts : 1683
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:14 pm | |
| | alldatndensum wrote: | The Huckabee thread I closed due to the whole discussion was going in circles. With our history, it was just going to be a big slam fest. I closed it, and I will stand by that decision. If anyone disagrees, take it to the Admins.
As far as people being unhappy with the Deer Lord thread being closed, I will undo it. Post away. Maybe I was a little click happy. |
You have a quick trigger! |
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GlassPrison
Age : 20 Joined : 21 Jul 2007 Posts : 2022
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:17 pm | |
| | Quote: | | and members are extended far more grace at these other boards. |
measures here are usually taken "preemptively" so to speak. i don't complain anymore because i know that this is just the way it is. as far as being extended grace, humanity is supposedly fallen anyway right? so what's the point :p _________________ ] |
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empyrealsymphony

Age : 40 Joined : 17 Jul 2007 Posts : 3005
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:20 pm | |
| | alldatndensum wrote: | | Quote: | | Why is this not surprising. |
Explain, please. |
Im just saying that it's not surprising that she is in agreement with locking that thread. There was a lot being discussed that seemed productive to me. As soon as I posted something biblical on the matter the blinders went up. This is very typical within extreme right. When confronted with something that may disprove what they have been taught for years they stop it at all costs. This happened more than once with the Universalism threads. The more truth that got posted the more they would fight it and eventually silence it the way CARM has done. _________________ "It is better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you are not."
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alldatndensum Mission Of One

Age : 38 Joined : 03 Jan 2007 Posts : 5515
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:27 pm | |
| That's just it, Norm. You posted a couple of articles that had NO BIBLICAL backing whatsoever. There were no real references to check out. What little was in there (Sarah & her handmaid) was nothing more than a misreading and cherrypicking to make it say what the authored wanted in order to back his humanistic logic.
Closing threads isn't exactly suppressing your opinions, either. Closing the threads when they start getting heated is done in order to give everyone a breather so they can hopefully come back and discuss things with their attitudes put away. I doubt anyone there felt like you were proving anything--most would say you were justifying sin. _________________

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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Age : 45 Joined : 08 Apr 2007 Posts : 1683
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:28 pm | |
| | GlassPrison wrote: | | Quote: | | and members are extended far more grace at these other boards. |
measures here are usually taken "preemptively" so to speak. i don't complain anymore because i know that this is just the way it is.
as far as being extended grace, humanity is supposedly fallen anyway right? so what's the point :p |
Supposedly is the key, grace is something that all humans can extend to each other, the idea that it is exclusive to christians is erronious. |
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Angel with Attitude The Emperor Has No Clothes

Joined : 09 Apr 2007 Posts : 2771
 | Subject: Re: Locked Threads Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:29 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Why is this not surprising |
I don't know...maybe even people that disagree ALOT with you have no interest in seeing people going at each other instead of discussing AND have a jobb to do, entrusted to them by the owner of this board? Were we still talking about Mike Huckabee? NO!! We were falling into another one of your platforms and it looked like the viciousness wouldn't end. btw-...I've been at least partly, if not mostly responsible for threads being locked or deleted more times than I can remember,(tho I've mellowed, IMO) I can also remember NOT saying anything about it but once or twice in all these years. With you, it's constant persecution complexx.
| Quote: | | Then why did you use my name in your very first sentence? My name was used by two other posters on that thread as well. |
This is a fair question. In all honesty, for myself it was a simple reference point, NOT anything to do with what I think of you or on your views on the matter. I've seen and heard ALOT of goofy things in my life but what this man is doing takes the cake, IMO. If one is doing it, perhaps others are too. I felt slightly uncomfortable sharing this sort of subject matter like it was an everyday topic and your most recent posts in another thread reminded me...that is all. If you or he think you have an argument that stands in the matter, perhaps more may be there in the Bible to refute that and this is what I was asking for. IF you don't want your name mentioned/associated with these sort of views, don't express them. AGAIN, if you don't mind... then be aware, people will make that association and may mention you. _________________ only symbols can be twisted ,burned,spat on etc.NOTHING truly Holy can be desecrated.....
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