The Christian Metal Realm is a community made up largely of Christians who also happen to love heavy metal! You do not have to be a Christian to join, but you MUST be respectful. Home  FAQ  Search  Register  Log in       The Christian Metal Realm :: Christian Metal Realm :: The Discussion Chamber  Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk     Goto page :   1, 2 Author Message alldatndensum Mission Of One Age : 38 Joined : 03 Jan 2007 Posts : 4382 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 1:03 pm Quote: The peeps cheeks on the board seem to be clenched especially tight these days.... It's a movie people...leave people to their opinions of it. It's beyond ridiculous. Nominated by Alldat for Post Of The Week. _________________ "When I'm with you I don't know whether I should study neurosurgery or go to see the Care Bears movie..."   alldatndensum Mission Of One Age : 38 Joined : 03 Jan 2007 Posts : 4382 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 2:24 pm Oh, and to put my $.1/2 worth in here: The trailer looks amazing. It looks like it will be worlds better than the previous Hulk movie with Eric Bana. Be sure to stick around after the credits to see Tony Stark's appearance in the film. _________________ "When I'm with you I don't know whether I should study neurosurgery or go to see the Care Bears movie..."   Drachenschlächter A Mere Peasant Age : 29 Joined : 08 Dec 2007 Posts : 3151 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 3:12 pm scourge39 wrote: BackFromTheDawn wrote: The peeps cheeks on the board seem to be clenched especially tight these days.... It's a movie people...leave people to their opinions of it. It's beyond ridiculous. It's not just Ashenvale's opinion of the movie. It's that the majority of his posts are negative, whether they're about Scripture, movies, or life in general, hence my 'typical goth/ technopagan' comment. As I've said, I deal with these types regularly. Their myopic view of Scripture is most disturbing. They spend most of their time fixated on Ecclesiastes, Lamentations, and the imprecatory Psalms, making those passages the sum total of their approach to life and Spirituality. This type of attitude/worldview is completely contrary to Scripture, no matter how much Christian goths try to treat it as sacrosanct. It's only one aspect of a whole spectrum of emotions displayed in Scripture. There's a time to be negative, depressed, etc., but to seemingly live in a perpetual state of naysaying and bleakness does not in any way testify to one's redemption in Christ. Dude. Just because the movie looked boring to me, doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Are we not allowed to crticise movies on an internet forum? _________________ .................... Come Heaven. Come Shadows. Come crashing over me. I feel that something will have to break.. And the sky beneath - Covenant. http://chamberofsolace.heavenforum.com/index.htm http://jesusmetal.forummotion.com/index.htm   scourge39 Age : 33 Joined : 06 Apr 2007 Posts : 1965 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 3:31 pm Fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion. I'm actually more put off by DMCM's contention that the potrayal of the US army in the film will be politically motivated. That's just sheer nonsense coming from somebody who obviously watches entirely too much Fox News. Now if it were the Captain America movie, then I'd be more concerned about a comic book movie getting political. I'm sure that one will undoubtedly infuriate either liberals or conservatives, depending upon how they spin the story. V for Vendetta has been the only comic book-based movie to date that got blatantly political. Even liberal Ebert & Roeper criticized the movie for its propaganda. Other points, which may/may not turn out to be true: 1) Marvel Comics is overseeing The Incredible Hulk and has guaranteed faithfulness to the source material. 2) Marvel Comics seems to be more conscious than DC Comics, who published V for Vendetta, that children and teens are a large segment of their target audience. 3) Marvel Studios is about making money, not stirring up controversy. DC Comics is much more brazen in that regard.   Drachenschlächter A Mere Peasant Age : 29 Joined : 08 Dec 2007 Posts : 3151 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 3:33 pm That military bit was pretty funny. I was just thinking.."dude... It's the hulk.. not a Michael Moore movie".. haha I actually quite enjoyed V for Vendetta. _________________ .................... Come Heaven. Come Shadows. Come crashing over me. I feel that something will have to break.. And the sky beneath - Covenant. http://chamberofsolace.heavenforum.com/index.htm http://jesusmetal.forummotion.com/index.htm   scourge39 Age : 33 Joined : 06 Apr 2007 Posts : 1965 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 3:45 pm Ashenvale wrote: I actually quite enjoyed V for Vendetta. Me too, very good adaptation of the DC Comics graphic novel.   DeathMetalCookieMonster Resident Aryeonaut Joined : 07 Apr 2007 Posts : 1917 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 8:12 pm scourge39 wrote: DeathMetalCookieMonster wrote: Looks like *** to me. Basically a "look how evil the U.S. military is" movie that uses The Hulk as a lore. Another one who knows nothing about the Hulk. The US military was always trying to capture the Hulk for its own purposes going all the way back to the comics of the 1960's. It was his 'adversary,' in many ways. General Ross was always opposed to the Hulk. Why don't you try giving up your a political pundit crap for once and appreciate something on its own terms without looking for a left-wing political subtext behind everything, DMCM? You're as bad as Tucker Carlson & Bill O' Reilly! I suppose you suspect that the forthcoming Captain America movie will depict Steve Rogers as a fascist. Looks like you missed the part where I said "Platoon is one of my favorite movies". "JFK" was a great flick. So was "Full Metal Jacket". Have you ever seen me say "oh, it's liberal hog wash" on any other movie that's come out? Didn't think so. So don't go saying I"m "as bad as Tucker Carlson & Bill O'rielly". Also, I think I've deffended democrats on this board and in general more then move conservatives here, so don't go acting like everything is "political pundit crap". _________________ Romans 6:1-23   DeathMetalCookieMonster Resident Aryeonaut Joined : 07 Apr 2007 Posts : 1917 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 8:17 pm scourge39 wrote: Fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion. I'm actually more put off by DMCM's contention that the potrayal of the US army in the film will be politically motivated. That's just sheer nonsense coming from somebody who obviously watches entirely too much Fox News. Actually, I watch CNN. Anything else you want to get completely wrong about me? Quote: Now if it were the Captain America movie, then I'd be more concerned about a comic book movie getting political. Oh, so you are allowed to be concerned about a certain movie but I can't? Roger that! Maybe you're just not aware that I"m a vet who's sick and tired of seeing the U.S. military demonized by Hollywood. Quote: I'm sure that one will undoubtedly infuriate either liberals or conservatives, depending upon how they spin the story. V for Vendetta has been the only comic book-based movie to date that got blatantly political. Even liberal Ebert & Roeper criticized the movie for its propaganda. Which I guess it's okay for them to be concerned about such-and-such movie but I show concern about ONE movie and that make me Mr. Everything's-about-politics-and-always-looking-for-the-liberal-biased kind of guy? Whatever. _________________ Romans 6:1-23   Drachenschlächter A Mere Peasant Age : 29 Joined : 08 Dec 2007 Posts : 3151 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 9:02 pm Hey DMCM, we are eating pork tonight at my table... would you be a gent and go slaughter one of my pigs for us? I'll go fetch the good spirits. _________________ .................... Come Heaven. Come Shadows. Come crashing over me. I feel that something will have to break.. And the sky beneath - Covenant. http://chamberofsolace.heavenforum.com/index.htm http://jesusmetal.forummotion.com/index.htm   scourge39 Age : 33 Joined : 06 Apr 2007 Posts : 1965 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sat May 10, 2008 9:39 pm DeathMetalCookieMonster wrote: Oh, so you are allowed to be concerned about a certain movie but I can't? Roger that! Maybe you're just not aware that I"m a vet who's sick and tired of seeing the U.S. military demonized by Hollywood. Quote: I'm sure that one will undoubtedly infuriate either liberals or conservatives, depending upon how they spin the story. V for Vendetta has been the only comic book-based movie to date that got blatantly political. Even liberal Ebert & Roeper criticized the movie for its propaganda. Which I guess it's okay for them to be concerned about such-and-such movie but I show concern about ONE movie and that make me Mr. Everything's-about-politics-and-always-looking-for-the-liberal-biased kind of guy? Whatever. As someone who grew up reading Marvel Comics, I can tell you that Captain America always had a political slant. He was created to boost the morale of US soldiers during WWII. During the Watergate era, Steve Rogers briefly gave up being the Star-Spangled Avenger and went by the name Nomad to mirror some of the public mistrust of the government at that time. Captain America, because he was a super soldier created by the US government who answers to the POTUS, lends himself to political commentary and has done so for decades now. There was always a political element to many of the Captain America storylines. Therefore, I expect to see a certain amount of political commentary in Captain America: The First Avenger when it's released in 2010. I'd be shocked not to see any in that movie, to be honest. The Hulk's alter ego, Bruce Banner, on the other hand, was a scientist employed by the US military. In the early '60's, the Hulk offered some commentary on the nuclear arms race, but the stories moved away from that by the 1970's. Bruce Banner has always been tied to the military for as long as the Hulk has been in existence. I can't recall any Hulk storylines that demonized the military. There were times when the military sought to kill the Hulk for the safety of the public and then there were other times when they tried to use the Hulk for their own ends. The comics depicted that the military misunderstood the Hulk, not necessarily viewing him as a hero. That's it. It's interesting storytelling, nothing more. I wouldn't expect politicizing in the movie. It would be out of place if the writers did such a thing. Having watched that trailer several times, I don't even know how you came to your conclusions about the movie. From the trailer, it's just looks like a typical Hulk-versus-the-military story, in a good way that is, that thankfully seems true to the source material. The Hulk has never been 'unamerican'. I don't believe that the writers of the Incredible Hulk comics, past or present, truly hate the military any more than I believe that the creators of The X-Files truly believe in UFOS. The Hulk & Captain America were both created by the same artist. Marvel Comics fanboys will be expecting both of those movies to be faithful to the source material. The Hulk likes to smash tanks & knock over buildings. Captain America is politically conservative and morally upright. I doubt very seriously that Marvel Studios will deviate from those characteristics with their movies. If they do, their reputation will be ruined and they'll lose money. I hope I've sufficiently cleared up the literary differences between Hulk and Cap for you and that you better understand why I see the Captain America movie as potentially more controversial than The Incredible Hulk. It's silly to have a knee-jerk reaction to every cinematic depiction of the military because of a few negative ones. If you're not careful, you'll become bitter because of it. No desire for respect is worth that, IMHO. I'm sorry that vets like yourself don't get the respect that they deserve, but as a Christian, you should take some solace in knowing that your Lord didn't get much respect from the Jews either, and he made the ultimate sacrifice, a far greater one than any vet will ever make, with eternal significance. I'm sure he empathizes with vets who feel disrespected by a country who largely takes their military service for granted.   DeathMetalCookieMonster Resident Aryeonaut Joined : 07 Apr 2007 Posts : 1917 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sun May 11, 2008 5:44 am Quote: It's silly to have a knee-jerk reaction to every cinematic depiction of the military because of a few negative ones. What bothers me is that I show misgivings about one movie in regards to how it shows the military and you act like I do this to all movies. _________________ Romans 6:1-23   scourge39 Age : 33 Joined : 06 Apr 2007 Posts : 1965 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sun May 11, 2008 10:43 am DeathMetalCookieMonster wrote: Quote: It's silly to have a knee-jerk reaction to every cinematic depiction of the military because of a few negative ones. What bothers me is that I show misgivings about one movie in regards to how it shows the military and you act like I do this to all movies. And it's a movie for which you've only seen the trailer. Plus, you posted earlier: Quote: Maybe you're just not aware that I"m a vet who's sick and tired of seeing the U.S. military demonized by Hollywood. This statement implies, rather strongly, that Hollywood depicts the military negatively quite often and that you're tired of it. Sorry if I misread you, but it's very difficult to interpret that statement any other way. I'm not jumpin' on you, but I wouldn't prejudge The Incredibe Hulk too hastily because of a few negative military depictions of the past. If you still believe that the movie is going to rake the US military over the coals, all the more power to you. It's a free country, and therefore, you're entitled to that opinion. That's doubtful, IMHO, having read the comics personally since the age of 4.   BackFromTheDawn Age : 21 Joined : 18 May 2007 Posts : 2556 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Sun May 11, 2008 10:55 am Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the very purpose of a trailer to give you an idea of what the movie will entail? People will be naturally trying to fill in the gaps of what is presented. They may not be right, but that's why it's called a guess. It's up to them if they want to try and follow up on that guess by going to see it. _________________ "He had discovered Time and Death and God"-Aldous Huxley   SueNC Age : 41 Joined : 24 Oct 2007 Posts : 1729 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Wed May 14, 2008 4:32 pm here's another trailer that looks awesome! _________________ 'Holy, holy, holy... is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come. With all creation I sing, 'Praise to the King of Kings!' You are my everything and I will adore you!' - 'Revelation Song.'   scourge39 Age : 33 Joined : 06 Apr 2007 Posts : 1965 Subject: Re: Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk   Wed May 14, 2008 4:46 pm Yep, that's the teaser.   Full Trailer for The Incredible Hulk     Page 2 of 2 Goto page :   1, 2 Permissions of this forum: You cannot reply to topics in this forum The Christian Metal Realm :: Christian Metal Realm :: The Discussion Chamber The Christian Metal Realm :: Christian Metal Realm :: The Discussion Chamber Free forums | © phpbb | Free forum support | Report an abuse | Create your own blog