Just a note, for Strutter's benefit, since he seems to have trouble understanding this:

"Company Approved" pins are those pins which have been approved on a corporate level in order to say something about the company itself, whether it be a pin speaking of a charity for which the company is collecting, or a pin with a logo on it, or even a pin given out by the company to congratulate an employee (as is the case with resaurants like the Outback Steakhouse). But in ALL these cases, "company approved" pins are those handed out BY said company. It's not a simple matter of the employee going to his manager and saying, "Chief, is it okay if I wear this pin?" and the manager giving the go-ahead! If you're wearing a uniform, there is little to NO deviation allowed in said uniform, which makes moot your point about approving this particular pin.

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1. Alldat said to STRUTTER:

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Let it go, dude. Find another dragon to slay--one that really might be noteworthy.

And I did




2. Alldat later said, again to STRUTTER:

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To me, this is a non-issue that should not have gone for 4 pages. It just seemed like you were looking to make this a bigger deal than it is.

And once again I did




3. At this point......I would just like to say that regardless of how many pages STRUTTER can drag this thread's length out to.......this thread will end in a pathetically dismal whimper.....as it gazes upon the *Militaria* thread far in the lead.




4. *Militaria* =

Sorry......sorry.

*Militaria* =

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All hail the militaria page!

HAIL!! HAIL!! HAIL!!





HAIL!! HAIL!! HAIL!!

I'd guess that the employee's attitude was probably the lion's share of the issue here.

If he'd accepted the alternative pin, he'd still be employed there.

Seems like he had a choice.

I just came to this thread after reading the thread about Christians in other parts of the world being tortured and killed for their faith. I gotta say that makes this sound even more inane. People are truly being martyred in a first-century kind of way for being a Christian and here in America we trot out a guy who was fired while wearing a "God pin" to say "see, we are persecuted for our faith too." Pathetic. We Christians have it pretty good here.

Yup.

We do have it better here. The U.S. is a great country. Here we have the fundamental Constitutional right to free religious expression, and Jay Sekulow and the American Center for Law and Justice have done a lot to defend those Constitutional rights.

We have been blessed in that we don't see widespread violent persecution here, but at the same time anyone who doesn't think it can happen here is kidding themselves. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. We have seen groups surround and even invade churches, screaming, throwing things, making threats, etc. People have been shot for their religious beliefs of for their peaceful Pro-Life protest, here in America. People have been violently attacked for witnessing. I have seen video of students arrested and taken away by police for praying in a public school. Loss of freedom can be gradual and incremental.

Religion is making it into the public schools. They can teach Mysticism, they can teach Kabbalah, etc. There is a very good article about this in WORLD magazine called 'Mysticism For Kids'. In public school in California they have forced students to recite prayers in the name of "Allah, the Merciful", and reenact a "Jihad". Yet in my state, voluntary, student-led prayer has been prohibitted even at games, and celebrating Christmas is banned in certain schools, even though it is a federal holiday, and don't even think about posting the Ten Commandments or the Cross. They have to save room to post the Pink Triangle, which I myself have seen posted in a public school in my area. But it symbolizes perversion, not religion, so apparently that makes it okay.

Should a Christian be allowed to wear a cross to work? Can a Jew wear a Star of David? Should a Muslim be allowed to wear religious attire to work, even if it "violates the dress code"?

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Dr. Hena Zaki of Plano says she was shocked when CareNow officials told her last month in person and later by e-mail that a no-hat policy extended to her hijab. The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations wrote to CareNow, explaining federal law requires employers to reasonably accommodate religious practices of an employee.

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Apples to oranges, Strutter. As Greg can tell you, a hijab is a requirement for women of the Islamic religion. Those of the Christian religion are NOT required to wear pins!

Everything else is related to government and hardly qualifies as real "persecution," when put against stories of people like brother Yun, and others who TRULY suffer around the world for the Gospel!

I certainly did not say that wearing the pin was required.

You do know that I don't condone the guy's choice about the pin, correct?

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I think we need to distinguish between violent persecution and political correctness.

What we have in this country is a problem with Political Correctness, not violent persecution at the level we see in Communist and Islamic nations.

FireStorm, I agree with you that we have it better here in the Land of the Free!

No question about that...

Can't you just let it go? Sheesh!

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Can't you just let it go? Sheesh!

And I did




BTW to say we Christians have it "good" in the U.S.A. is an understatement.

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This whole story is so freaking ridiculous.

I think we all know that if the button had read "Allah is Love", because of "political correctness" he would have faced no problem, and would NOT have been fired.

People are afraid to confront a Muslim on this type of thing.

Nidal Hasan himself had a bumper sticker that read "Allah is Love", and said and did many things which should have gotten him fired or worse. All along there were people who saw the warning signs of his Islamism and so-called anti-war, anti-U.S., views and would not confront or remove him.

If the military, which can be strict and has been fighting Islamists in the war, won't punish a guy like that you know a lot of civilians would not, for fear of a law suit.

The crazy thing is, the world has gotten so PC that you can't even wear a One Nation Under God pin at work anymore, but you can be a fanatical Islamist, no problem.

Condolences to the Fort Hood families.

The level of Political Correctness in this country has gotten beyond ridiculous, and apparently it led to "tolerance" of a violent extremist ideology which fueled the Jihad at Fort Hood.

I wish we could all see beyond the pin itself to the greater issue of absurd political correctness spreading in our nation, which is a serious topic.

This whole pin thing was just a symptom.