Listen, I used to work at Home Depot, and the policies in what you can and cannot have on your apron are VERY strict. I was reprimanded for not having my name printed on my apron properly....but rules are rules. It's their company. You choose to work for them....you HAVE to obey the rules! People are so quick to cry religious discrimination, even when there is none. Religion, politics, etc are all things that can interfere with the job at hand AND can fuel unnecessary arguements and disagreements. It's not as if they were telling this guy what to believe....they were just telling him to keep his beliefs to himself....plain and simple. He failed at doing so, he got fired......serves him right for being a disrespectful employee.

A lawsuit by a private individual is much less expensive than an ACLU lawsuit, I can promise you.

Realisitcally, this guy's lawsuit doesn't actually stand a chance of succeeding. If Hd has ANY sort of documentation on file in regards to work performance or other reprimands (information we are NOT privy to at the moment), the move of firing the guy will be an open and shut thing as far as the courts are concerned.

you don't make a decision to fire someone when the likelihood of litigation is on the horizon (and ANY time you have someone make this sort of fuss and be insubordinate, you are looking with an eye towards potentially being sued) without having your ducks in a row beforehand. you don't take this sort of action without evaluating "if this guy takes us to court, will we win?" Employers really DO think that way all the time....it's simple common sense in this day and age.


Again, there is NO logical way that this can possibly be spun so that HD made the "wrong" decision.

In a normal and sane world, prior to the ACLU's insanity, they would have approved the pin without blinking an eye.

A no-brainer.

As tohostudios revealed, the pressure of extremist groups like the ACLU is the only apparent explanation for this. The ACLU is a bully which apparently even holds private organizations hostage to their radical views.


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[Note for clarification: When I say a normal and sane world, I am not even talking about a perfect world, nor a sinless world, because you don't need a sinless world to approve a pin with a positive message.]

^...which is EXACTLY what I was saying about upptight rules across the board and for those of us who can acknowledge such a thing and not seek an enemy of our faith every where we possibly can...

That stuff goes on and is the norm regardless of the personal religious convictions and attitude toward civil liberties that are in the people who have to implement such policies.

In other words, that man's supervisors may well agree that there is nothing wrong with that pin, but the rules are the rules and to apply them fairly, it has to be the same for everyone.

What part of this is unclear? I haven't worked outiside of the home much in ten years but I haven't forgotten this is how it is.

Plenty of people don't like it and think it's lame and they ARE NOT only Christians. They have the common sense and are not so wrapped upp in utter selfishness to realize that they don't want to thwart their common goal by making it all about these issues.

As project already said, no one told the man he couldn't be a Christian or killed his mom or dogg.

He went looking for a fight and got one. He thinks the world should be different than what it is, what Jesus plainly taight us it would be like, he's now out of a job, he is ignoring the warning in scripture to Christians that if we suffer persecution for Christ, it should not be because we are a jerk/troublemaker and we need to examine ourselves in such a way as to be sure that is not the case, he didn't seem to, he thinks the world should kiss his behind because he's a Christian, he made us look dumb, petty, powerless and like every other whiny special interest group on earth.

No respect.

And, before it comes upp again, yes the ACLU sucks. WE still bear responsibility to be a witness for Christ and that doesn't always have to be about whining and bellyaching about our rights.

There is plenty we can and should do, are in fact called to do that requires more of us and the Bible teaches that against such things, there is no law.

People have to decide if they want any reward at all, and/or if they only want it in this life OR if they are truly seeking praises from God, regardless of what man does or does not do.

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You expect the world to be sane when it's not, it's ruled by satan

Black Rider, I get the feeling you overlooked the "Note for clarification" I typed just in case someone would misunderstand, as you apparently did. I never said I expected the world to be sane. I am WELL aware of sin and satan and all that. Here is what I had typed: [Note for clarification: When I say a normal and sane world, I am not even talking about a perfect world, nor a sinless world, because you don't need a sinless world to approve a pin with a positive message.]

Even in our fallen world, even today, here in America many people support the Pledge of Allegiance, the source of the phrase on the pin, and back when President John F. Kennedy and President Dwight Eisenhower made references to God in their speeches, I don't expect most Americans were all up in arms and offended.

It doesn't take Paradise or the Garden of Eden. It just takes normal American people no longer afraid of the ACLU. I don't even mean just evengelical Christians.

We have Jews, Roman Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, etc. and all of these groups believe in God in some form.

And just because someone may not happen to believe in God does NOT automatically mean they are going to be offended by our Pledge of Allegiance!

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It still boils down to one point, and then the discussion is senseless after that:


Home Depot did not want this on a pin on their employee. It was company policy. The dude violated said policy and got canned. He knew the risks, did it anyway, and got canned. Any questions?

He got himself fired. Who is to blame? The guy for wearing the pin. Case closed.

We are. Regardless of whether this is inspired by the ACLU or just what the owners want, Home Depot doesn't want employees wearing non-HD pins. Their stance could be anti-Christ or just as simple as thinking too many pins would not look professional. Without hunting down each stockholder and manager that help set company policy, you jump to conclusions and just the "heart" of this corporation without enough info to do so.

Let it go, dude. Find another dragon to slay--one that really might be noteworthy.

Companies don't hire individualists. Feel free to exercise your individualism on your own dime. While at work, you either obey corporate rules or look for a job that will enable you to wear as many pins as you wish.

Just sayin...