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wv_metaller4christ



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PostSubject: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:32 pm

Christians and tattoos.

Good, bad, not sure?

I found a site (http://www.religioustattoos.net/Bible_Support/index.php) that has an excellent defense for religious tattoos.

I don't have any. Wanted some at one time but have sense changed my mind. Not for me. But should I frown on a friend (a Christian one to boot) who wants to get one or has one (or many)?
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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:37 pm

Is it truly WORTH frowning upon someone over items of such a superficial nature? Is it worth casting a cloud of judgement over things that, in the long run, don't really matter? How exactly does some ink in the skin affect someone's state of Salvation? and, if ti doesn't.....why worry about it?

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:02 pm

On essentials, unity; on non-essentials, charity.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:06 pm

John Gilchrist Lodge wrote:
On essentials, unity; on non-essentials, charity.


On essentials, unity; on non-essentials, liberty; in ALL things, charity! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:38 pm

ok so i guess that answers my question Shocked lol!

I would like to make clear that by "frowning" I meant telling them it was wrong. Correcting them so to speak. Not judging. No never. Evil or Very Mad

I was just wondering how people in here really felt about it. How you all have dealt with it scripturally with others. I have a friend who wanted to know if tattooing really was a sin and I really didn't know what to tell him other than what Leviticus says. I wanted to be able to go more than just one scripture that everyone uses that is probably not being understood in context No
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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:24 am

wv_metaller4christ wrote:
ok so i guess that answers my question Shocked lol!

I would like to make clear that by "frowning" I meant telling them it was wrong. Correcting them so to speak. Not judging. No never. Evil or Very Mad

I was just wondering how people in here really felt about it. How you all have dealt with it scripturally with others. I have a friend who wanted to know if tattooing really was a sin and I really didn't know what to tell him other than what Leviticus says. I wanted to be able to go more than just one scripture that everyone uses that is probably not being understood in context No



Much like the whole "alcohol and Christianity" thing, there's IS no real definitive answer, otherwise there wouldn't be a debate over thnigs like this. You'll find people who will quote the Leviticus stuff till they're blue in the face, and you'll find people like Mrs. Exo's youngest brother, who has been given the opportunity to share the gospel with folks SPECIFICALLY because of the ink he's got......

What I was trying to get at, though is still valid...... it doesn't affect state of Salvation. is it "worth it" to focus on things like this? In the grand scheme of things....isn't it QUITE irrelevant?


Long hair/short hair.
Piercings/ no piercings
Tats/ no ink
alcohol/ no drinking
metal/ if it ain't a hymn it's "of the devil".

It is indeed possible to do far more harm than good with nitpicking things like this.....I took more crap from an overzealous youth pastor for having an earring, having hair past my collar, and liking metal music than was right.....it was enough that it actually drove me out of the only church I'd ever attended since my birth, and soured me a GREAT deal on the whole ":church environment" for a NUMBER of years. It did FAR more harm than good.....

Of course, today, I've got both ears done, hair over a foot long, and listen to some of the hardest,. most brutal stuff around....and yet i've never been more "at peace" with my walk with God.....

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:35 am

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.....I took more crap from an overzealous youth pastor for having an earring, having hair past my collar, and liking metal music than was right.....it was enough that it actually drove me out of the only church I'd ever attended since my birth, and soured me a GREAT deal on the whole ":church environment" for a NUMBER of years. It did FAR more harm than good.....


*ahem* Hi....My name is Tex (everyone says "Hi Tex!") and I have been affected by this mentality as well....


Seriously tho......Ive actually been told my SIDEBURNS would lead me to hell Shocked because "All musicians have sideburns!" Straight face and all Mad

Isnt there some sort of place we could all go for therapy - like if we had a big huge intarweb message board or something?

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:09 am

I am heavily tattooed.


Make of that what you will. Think of that what you will. Say of that what you will.


I really don't care what you make, think, or say of the ink. I could care less.


GOD loves me. CHRIST died for me. The SPIRIT lives in me. I relate to GOD as my friend, FATHER, and companion more all the time, as I age. You really think I care about what anyone (except my wife Debbie, who beats me constantly for my tats ) thinks of my tats?? Question


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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:17 am

I really dont see tatts as an issue unless its pornographic or something else that the bible speaks against.

I dont have any tatts but the only reason for that is Im too lazy to come up with anything original.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:51 am

GODSWIZARD wrote:
I am heavily tattooed.


Make of that what you will. Think of that what you will. Say of that what you will.


I really don't care what you make, think, or say of the ink. I could care less.




Yeah same here Twisted Evil
I love tattoos.
Lookin' forward to my next session Twisted Evil
I got a bald head and a mean moustache too .
Totally agree with you GODSWIZARD regarding how others perceive your appearance.
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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:15 am

I agree 100% with exo's first post

I also think its superficial and its stuff like that, that causes dissent and believers attacking other believers, Tats are not for everybody i know alot of Christians who have them, I personally dont have any and at the moment have no desire to get one

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:17 am

I never got a tattoo. I hate needles, and I always wondered how gross it would look when I was 85.

But, as for other people having them, I'm cool with it. I'm not into people who have "full sleeves" and such. I think you are going to extremes with it then.

Scripturally, if someone is going on the attack about tattoos, will throw out part of the Old Testament laws governing these. But, we are not under the law--but under grace. If you've got the tats, God's not gonna send you to Hell for them, that's for sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:22 am

I got me a couple tats.

And a goatee.

I like 'em. Personally, of course. . .

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:54 am

I have the goatee as well. I may have to shave it soon as it is turning white!

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:01 am

My goat is too which totally sucks. I think it's funny that people use that Leviticus verse to say tatoos are bad. Read that whole section and see how many things no one follows.

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:06 am

LOL!

Not me - I have to shave it cause I can't have it in uniform. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:38 pm

When I think of tattoos, I think of this clip of Dave Mustaine

^^^
That's basically my opinion on tattoos. I just don't feel a need to get one, cause I feel sexy already. (conceited anyone? lol )

The common New Testament argument against tattoos is 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Quote:
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is
in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you
were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body

However this verse in context was more about staying away from promiscuous activity, rather than body art. But I see no reason to completely throw away the verse. We can keep the point that our bodies are a Temple and we should treat it with respect. So keep the body healthy and make the most of what God gave you. You shouldn't deliberately break down your body with drugs and cutting. Respect your body like you respect God, because God gave it to you.

If you really really feel like you're respecting yourself and respecting God through a tattoo then I feel no reason to stop you.

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:12 pm

Ya'll seem to have this one pretty well covered, I will go see if my expertise is needed elsewhere. tongue lol tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:10 am

Black Rider said:

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Read that whole section and see how many things no one follows.


Yep. Twisted Evil


Yeppers. Twisted Evil


Yepperyahoo. Twisted Evil


Yepperoni. Twisted Evil


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PostSubject: Re: Cut me some slack if this has already been discussed....   Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:21 am

im thinking of getting me daughters name tattooed, just gotta wait for the money. tats are expensive....

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