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PostSubject: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:43 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htq3FwZ1mw8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlNH5jOhWVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCzBUCrck14

Discuss.

Yes, I know there is at least one furry on this board, and I do have one furry friend that I've known since highschool, but this is just creepy.

Are all male furries gay/bi? It sure seems that way.

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:50 am

I hear the sound of a can of worms being opened.
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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:03 am

emptytomb1 wrote:
I hear the sound of a can of worms being opened.


I have no problem with furries in general. Remember, I have at least one friend who's a furry. I'm just commenting on the vids.

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:08 pm

what's a furry?
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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:14 pm

That set of videos were marginally disturbing to say the least. ESPECIALLY the dude that got the plastic surgery. I'm sorry, but that dude has some head problems (and that was not meant to be a pun).
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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:10 pm

Head problem? HAHAHAHAHAH

All right, where is our little friend. I want to hear his take.
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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:54 pm

Shocked

ooooooookaaaaay

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:47 pm

These people are some kinda freaky. And this is coming from a man who has a bunny suit!

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:18 pm

SideShow wrote:
That set of videos were marginally disturbing to say the least. ESPECIALLY the dude that got the plastic surgery. I'm sorry, but that dude has some head problems (and that was not meant to be a pun).


To be fair, that guy is not a furry nor does he consider himself one. He's more of a "therion", if I'm not mistaken.

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:41 pm

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That set of videos were marginally disturbing to say the least. ESPECIALLY the dude that got the plastic surgery


It is amazing what some people will do with the life GOD has gifted them with. scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:11 pm

I'm sorry but I can't even finish the first video without getting highly annoyed every 90 seconds or so. scratch


Perhaps under some form of sedation I may be able to view whatever that is from a sociological perspective.

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:58 am

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I'm sorry but I can't even finish the first video without getting highly annoyed every 90 seconds or so. scratch


Perhaps under some form of sedation I may be able to view whatever that is from a sociological perspective.


Uh, yeah. +1.


from a mental health point of view- these folks are off their rockers.

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:38 am

Okay after some sleep and strong coffee, the sociologist in me could handle watching all three.


Ummmmm........


Quote from surgically altered tiger guy sez it best:

"What's so great about being a human?"

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Now~Steve Irwin loved animals, even to the point of risking (and finally getting) death many times over. He made great pains to understand them and their behaviour, studied what they needed to survive, put out his own dough to preserve them and educate people about conservation, etc and he was extreme about it. However, he also knew he was and acted (relatively Razz) like a normal human dude, was married to a normal human woman and had normal human kids!

This furr bizness in the vids is also different from, tho similar to and equally disturbing as, bestiality. It seems those incapable of adjusting will pick any sort of weirdness and turn the idea of it into 'something that makes me special'. It seems to be a way for people with various adjustment issues to cope. I agree it is similar to transexuality.

I dunno, some people like to go to the Rennaissance Fair, to raves, be swingers, join secret societies and cults, be rabid sports fans, join every protest movement they can, etc all with the idea that this makes them/allows them to be who they REALLY are.

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:44 am

And we might add the obvious here. They're still human. They're just really freaky human.
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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:58 pm

It's sad that there's so many people who just cannot see through BS when it's right in front of them.. Shocked





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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:00 pm

I also like how British women can sound completely and totally overpolite and convincing no matter what they are really thinking or saying... bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:46 pm

Points:

1. Good post Angel, your last one, good read. Yeah.......this whole *Furry* biz is just......(Greg shivers)

2. Etomb said:

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And we might add the obvious here. They're still human. They're just really freaky human


"Duh" They are human no matter how much they alter themselves or act different. "Duh"

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I want so bad to have hope for humanity, but smurfit


I gave that up a loooooooong time ago OCI. That whole line of thinking (humanity's pointlessness and hopelessness and this sort of *furry* behaviour) was part of me becoming a Christian.

4. OCI also said:

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I also like how British women can sound completely and totally overpolite and convincing no matter what they are really thinking or saying...


lol! I will totally agree with you there. Twisted Evil

So.......just keep your eyes on that W & R. O.K?? Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:46 pm

Okay... My connection really stinks, so I can't watch the videos anytime soon. If anyone could give me some analysis, that would be awesome.

Now... I CAN address the comments in this thread...

What I see here is a lot of painting with broad brushes. First, remember that anyone can make a video, stick it on Youtube, and make any claim. It's not really a reliable source for information of any kind, and that includes sub-cultures like the furry fandom.

Apparently some here don't know that I consider myself a furr. No, I don't take it to some of the extremes that other people do, but then that is part of the problem with vids like this.

Furriness, like all sub-cultures has many different fascets and levels of interest, and the definition of what is "furry" and what is not is really up to every individual, even those who reside within that sub-culture. Some merely enjoy creating and viewing different forms of furry art, whether it be feral (four-legged), or anthro (two-legged), or any combination you can imagine.

Others, like me, consider themselves furry because not only to we enjoy the art aspect of it (which in and of itself, once again, spans many different levels and points of interest), but find ourselves with a strong affinity for animals (Angel used the example of Steve Irwin). They (and I) believe that in spite of us being the highest species, there is still a lot we can learn from those lower than us, just as an adult may often learn from a child.

And yes, there is the extreme who get into it to the point where they are so unhappy with their humanity they wish to make alterations to themselves, whether physical or otherwise, to become less human and more animal. Some will even admit an attraction to or a desire to engage in sexual acts with some animal or another.

However, let me state emphatically that this "dark side" of the sub-culture represents a MINORITY. The MAJORITY of furrs do not go nearly this far, and it is always a wonder to me that any media that even takes notice of the Furr sub-culture, it is on this small part they focus. Shows like CSI have focused on this aspect, to the point where when one thinks of a furry or a furry convention such as Anthro-con, they think of (as one google vid put it) "a bunch of mascots in heat".

These videos do not take into account many things regarding these conventions. They don't take into account what kind of people attend these things: mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, children. In fact, you might be surprised to learn that (at least this was true when last I checked) over 50% of the Furry sub-culture is Christian! Even if some do engage in the darker aspects, the "yiff" aspect, the majority of these people do nothing of the sort. We are talking about a group of people who come from all different walks of life, and they're united by one thing: that is by their love for the creatures whose care the Lord has entrusted to us.

I should also point out that "furries" and "therians" are two very different sub-cultures, and so the two should not be mixed. Unfortunately, I have not followed the latter so extensively as the former, so I cannot give you the specific definition of a therian vs. a furry.

I guess all I'm asking is that next time something like this is posted, people need to take it with a grain of salt. There is a LOT of media available on furries, and if you watch, you'll see that the majority is focused, as I said, on the "darker" aspects, but if you actually know a person who considers himself or herself a furr, if you actually take the time to try to understand them, and their reasons for engaging in that subculture, you'll be amazed at just how wrong an image you've gotten.

Even in cases where people do take it to extremes, the solution isn't to call them whackos, to say that they're "off their rockers" (to quote Wes). It's to love them, to pray for them. It's to reach out to them, and hope that God will allow them to be proud of their humanity, even while they seek to enjoy that sub-culture as it was intended to be enjoyed. We need to seek to show the love of Christ... and a lot of the comments I'm seeing here... are not loving at all.

Anyway... I think that's the end of my speech.

Edit: A buddy of mine informed me the vids are from the BBC... My point about the media seems proven true again.

Anyway... I wanted to take one extra moment to address this question that Cookie Monster asked.

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Are all male furries gay/bi? It sure seems that way.


Not at all! This is just one more example of a stereotype that is all too common. In truth, there are many gay furrs. In truth, there are many bi-sexual furrs. And in truth, there are MANY straight-as-an-arrow furrs, like me.


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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:56 pm

SideShow wrote:
ESPECIALLY the dude that got the plastic surgery.


I was actually doing some research on full-body tattoos and body modification recently and came across a load of info on that "stalking cat" character. I honestly wouldn't be so quick to group him with "furries." His obsession stems from a cultural and religious aspect of his Native American tribe. Most of his cultural peers have done things to make themselves appear like animals. Dennis Avner just had the technology, money and determination to take it a step further. As far as I am aware, he is widely recognized in body modification circles, but not as a furry.
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PostSubject: Re: Anna Meets the Furries   Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:02 am

Interesting Cunjo... Very interesting. I would be most curious to learn why this tribe engages in this kind of activity. I know that many Native American tribes revere animals in some form or another (totems, for example), but I'd never before heard of one taking it to this kind of extreme.

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