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GODSWIZARD
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 |  Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc  Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:43 pm | |
| Angel said:
| Quote: | | If we look back in history and see how this debate has been cause for many needless deaths and political strife, it makes the head swim and, personally, makes me sick to my stomach |
Me too.....I agree. 
Between (about) 1450 and 1650 ensued (about) 200 years of open religious warfare in Europe......that quite literally exhausted the continent and brought it to its knees. 
Angel then said:
| Quote: | | I would think by now we could back off of trying to assert either is right to any degree that causes strife and let G-d be G-d is someone else's life. |
I shall agree to that statement also.
As I said to Candlemass and Snowy Owl in other threads.......and totally meant......."Whatever floats yer' boat theologically and doctrinally", and I emphasize, I mean that.
They--and any other RC member--can do whatever they want to worship GOD. It's the heart.
But......I don't have to like it.  And......and, I don't have to believe in it or do it. Turn my saying to me. Whatever floats Greg's boat theologically and doctrinally. 
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candlemass
The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:45 pm | |
| | GODSWIZARD wrote: | Candlemass said:
| Quote: | | Ok, who among you have had such a change of heart that they no longer sin/confess? |
I do it to GOD.
Me and GOD.
Period.
I don't/won't/refuse/shall ignore, any doctrine and/or organization that tells me I should preferably use an intermediary.
Looks like the RC to me.
Nah......i'll pass.
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Dood, confess to the moon for all I care, that was not my point, that one person was suggesting that those who practice this have not had a change of heart, hogwash, only the self rightious need not confess! |
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GODSWIZARD
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:58 pm | |
| I hate message boards and the (lower) level of inter--personal communication they allow. 
My misunderstanding.
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Kuba
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:18 am | |
| | candlemass wrote: | | Ok, who among you have had such a change of heart that they no longer sin/confess? |
None of us.. Including the Pope.. But that is not the point bro.. Do I think the Catholic Confessional can establish true repentance? Sure I do. I have had many repentant experiences with Catholic clergy. However I do think that the Catholic Methodology of the Confessional can tend to get overly mechanical and result in people going through the motions rather than receive heart felt repentance from God. I do not personally agree with Priests being able to absolve sin, one of the multiple issues that I have with Canal Law, but I do think that the quality of the Confessional can be very proportional to the particular Priests relationship with God, when the quality of the repentance should be based on the individual's relationship with God. I mean if you have a Priest with a good personal relationship with God, he can really help an individual with a poor relationship with God. However you could have a Priest with a poor relationship with God (and there are plenty out there) and if a person has a good relationship with God they still can have a good experience in the Confessional. Where the big problem lies is when you have a Priest and an individual with poor relationships with Christ and that can be very counter productive..
But that's not to say that a person from any denomination can't get mechanical in their methodology and just walk though the motions. But I think that is why it is most important to advocate having a strong personal relationship with Jesus Christ above all denominational methodology.. There are going to be people from every denomination that shall call out to the Lord in the day of judgment, "Lord Lord, we have done this and that in Your name.." and He will say "Depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never knew you" (Matthew 7:23). And it is not going to matter if you were Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, or what ever! It will only matter that you had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. So that is what I advocate most of all and that this message would cross denominational borders and establish stronger individual relationships with Jesus Christ through out all of Christendom by wearing The Full Armor Of God everyday!!
I am a hopeless Born Again.... 
| Angel with Attitude wrote: | | IMO On this issue, you are being pretty balanced AND clear Kuba. |
Thanks for that.. 
| Quote: | | Btw, I LOVE all my Catholixx, including my dad's side of the family. |
Good, me too!
| Quote: | | "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! The Great and Powerful Oz has.... spoken!!!" |
I like you!! 
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GODSWIZARD
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:12 am | |
| That was Edgar.
He was my uncle.
He was a wizard too.
Uncle Edgar the Wizard. 
He was nice.
Kind of weird  , but nice.
He died in 1983.
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GlassPrison
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:50 am | |
| I'm way late on this thread, but doesn't everyone who holds a particular doctrine believe this way to some extent? That those who DON'T believe as you do, are not in the 'full truth' so to speak? It doesn't seem that particular to Catholicism, outside the fact that they actually voice this opinion.
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Sir Shred A Lot
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:58 am | |
| | GlassPrison wrote: | | I'm way late on this thread, but doesn't everyone who holds a particular doctrine believe this way to some extent? That those who DON'T believe as you do, are not in the 'full truth' so to speak? It doesn't seem that particular to Catholicism, outside the fact that they actually voice this opinion. |
A very wise man made a similar comment early in this thread when he said this:
| Quote: | | That's pretty much the same thing that most Protestants say about the Catholic Church. |
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GlassPrison
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:57 am | |
| lol, sorry, I skipped right to the end of this thread.
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Orion Crystal Ice
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:35 am | |
| If relativism could really get us so far, why are there 3 pages of this?
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GlassPrison
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:50 pm | |
| From what I scanned through, if you take all of the serious posts you'd probably only end up with a page or less.
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GODSWIZARD
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:30 pm | |
| My post about Uncle Edgar was serious.
He did die in 1983. 
Once a year......on the anniversary of his passing......we fire up the old "Oz machine" in his memory. 
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GlassPrison
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:19 am | |
| | Quote: | | Once a year......on the anniversary of his passing......we fire up the old "Oz machine" in his memory. |
Meaning you do a Black Sabbath Ozzy-years "Fest" in his honor? Cool...
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dOOm&gLOOm
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:05 am | |
| | GlassPrison wrote: | | Quote: | Once a year......on the anniversary of his
passing......we fire up the old "Oz machine" in his memory. |
Meaning you do a Black Sabbath Ozzy-years "Fest" in his honor? Cool... |
ooooooooooooooooo can I come next time?? 
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:16 am | |
| You can come, but the Larch has to stay at home. She drinks WAY too much, and we don't like getting pictures of her bare leaves in our e-mail right after the party.
Besides, the Larch has the hots for me. She told me so.
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dOOm&gLOOm
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:19 am | |
| She didn' tell you nuthin'!!!
You're makin this up as you go along, old man!!!
So what if she drinks too much, she's a big girl! Find me a 170 foot
three ton lady that DOESTN'T drink too much. It's a hard life, and it
takes quite a bit to get her goin if you know what I mean ...
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GlassPrison
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:28 pm | |
| | Quote: | It's a hard life, and it
takes quite a bit to get her goin if you know what I mean ...
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LOL! 
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dOOm&gLOOm
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm | |
| Haha, that's a cool emote but ...
... wait ... wait just a second .... that's root beer, right?
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GlassPrison
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:18 pm | |
| It's a Frappaccino in a beer glass.
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GODSWIZARD
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| | Subject: Re: Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Churc Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:43 pm | |
| Points:
1. It is not. It is Moose Drool Brand Ale. Yummy!!
2. GP said:
Meaning you do a Black Sabbath Ozzy-years "Fest" in his honor? Cool...
And I did 
3. Seriously though......Uncle Edgar loved Ozzy era BLACK SABBATH. 
I miss him so.
"Brunhilda!! Brunhilda!! I need some more Moose Drool to drown my sorrows!!"
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