I think the Beast is drawing near

Joined : 18 Jul 2007 Posts : 131

Hey guys,I just read an article yesterday in our local, the Dallas Morning News about a surv.company called CityWatcher.com.They implanted two of their workers wwith RFIDs calling it "a layer of security beyond key cards and clearance codes".The C.O.of the company said "To protect high end secure data,you use more sophisticated techniques,I don't think "interesting" even begins to describe this news.

Age : 33 Joined : 06 Apr 2007 Posts : 2305

And this surprises you?

Age : 78 Joined : 21 Apr 2007 Posts : 1506

Contrary to what most here will say, this has absolutely nothing to do with "the Beast."

Age : 33 Joined : 06 Apr 2007 Posts : 2305

Agreed Shred, but most of those who post here aren't knowledgable of good resources on Revelation. It's largely those with practically no knowledge of Church History who defecate bricks when they read articles about chip implants and such. It's caused by a total misunderstanding of Revelation 13, and what a 'mark' (charagma) meant to John's original audience. (Let me give you folks a hint, it represents neither a tattoo nor an implant. Cool

For those interested in a great book that addresses all of the relevant passages of Scripture concerning the Antichrist, let me recommend:

The Man of Sin: Uncovering the Truth About the Antichrist by Kim Riddlebarger

This book addresses the popular notions about the Antichrist such as those found in the Left Behind series and corrects them using the best tool available.... Scripture. The Chapter on the concept of Antichrist in John's Epistles is outstanding. At the end of the day, we need not be afraid of government funded technological advancements. (My previous post was a good natured jab at the popular concept of the 'end times.' I no longer lose sleep over alleged chip implants, computers that allegedly claim to be god, etc.)

Here's a 2-part article that some of you may find helpful:

The Beast in Biblical Eschatology: Part 1 By Sam Storms

The Beast in Biblical Eschatology: Part 2 By Sam Storms

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I'm simply stating a fact. My intention was not to portray the folks here as dullards. I worked in Christian retail for years, and built quite a formidable library by going to CBD warehouse sales during my 6 years of seminary. I'm fully aware of the types of books that average Christians buy; virtually none of them are helpful for interpreting Scripture. Most Christian bookstores don't even sell good exegetical commentaries 'in-house' because the average Christian won't fork over the money to buy them. In fact, I know scholars personally who've written commentaries for each of the major Evangelical sets and they've each stated that, as useful as they are to have, the publishers lose money printing them because they aren't best sellers among the masses.

Now, back to 'The Beast'....

Joined : 18 Jul 2007 Posts : 131

Honestly,please enlighten me on your theory.This was not alleged,this was a story detailing what happened when two employees were implanted with chips,did you actually read the post?For the record I do not put my trust in the LB material,the media,"Christian"news,conservative news etc.FYI,I personally attended a meeting many years ago by an "endtime" organization where a man had a prototype of a chip implanting device.Also ,when I say near, I mean ,maybe or maybe not in our lifetime but sometime in the future.This is not meant to be a shot ,but I think you might have a slightly naive view of the world and esp. the government.Back in the days when all the "militias" were appearing I personally visited a bookstore that had an actual back room that was open if you spoke about current events in "endtime"speak.This room was filled with literary and video materials that "alleged" several things about the government and much of it was hard to deny.For example the ATF making sick jokes about the Waco situation,saying that if necesssary the Davidians would get what the guys wife at Ruby Ridge got. After the napalm being dropped in Nam so many years ago and all the current proven lies do you think we should trust government funded tech. advancements .I am interested in the truth ,not"spin" from either side.I don't care who you are,your rank,how "official" you are,if you are lying you are lying.I for example am a fan of NASCAR racing and I am not too happy about it but it is a fact that all of the big three auto makers have ties to Nazi Germany.Daimler made the German army trucks,Ford was decorated by the Nazi gov. by proxy and GM had conn. as well.This is just one example of how the general population has been decieved,there are many ,many others.

Age : 33 Joined : 06 Apr 2007 Posts : 2305

Please read the articles linked in my earlier post. They will definitely enlighten you. I'm not saying that the article you posted was bunk. I'm simply saying that it has absolutely nothing to do with 'the Beast ' of Revelation 13 and most likely isn't a precursor to the rise of the final Antichrist.

Joined : 18 Jul 2007 Posts : 131

Yeah,I will do that,it wasn't so much what you said,it was the tone,kind of condescending.Just wanted to let you know that I am in no way a "typical" anything.I am firmly in the middle politically and as you can see I don't completely trust in anyone or any organization,denomination etc.

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I remember when people though bar codes on products would be the Mark of the Beast...
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Let's not forget that the Book of Revelations may not actually have anything to do with the end times and instead was a book written in "code" to the christians in Rome.
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