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alldatndensum
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PostSubject: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:43 am

Writing songs is fun. Recording is a blast.

Why does mixing, and making sure that everything sounds like you want it to on the finished project, have to be so blessed difficult? It makes me want to pull what's left of my hair right out!


AAARRRGGGGG!!!!!


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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:21 pm

Not sure, but if it won't mix, try emulsification! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:59 am

Arm starting to hurt?
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:32 pm

Hey Chris if you need some mixing tips let me know. I can post them here on this thread.Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:26 am

Yeah please do so..! 'Cause I'm a beginner at the whole home recording and all..
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:14 pm

Yes!! I need help on mixing bass. It seems it's too much bass eq but when I change it I lose the fullness of the bass.
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:59 pm

woetoyou wrote:
Yes!! I need help on mixing bass. It seems it's too much bass eq but when I change it I lose the fullness of the bass.


There can't ever be too much bass. Metal Banana
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:30 pm

woetoyou wrote:
Yes!! I need help on mixing bass. It seems it's too much bass eq but when I change it I lose the fullness of the bass.


The problem might be you have to much bass in all of your tracks. Try making room for the bass. Cut the lows on your guitars at about 80 Hz. Do a low cut on your bass and kick drum at 40 Hz. See if that helps. Don't be afraid to add some hi-mids to your bass as well. I have started another thread for these questions check it out. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:08 am

Very cool advice. I will try that. My problem does seem to be getting the bass and bass drum at volumes I like in the mix.
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:19 am

I cant even get my recording equipment to work. To bad I want to record my version of Laendler in C Minor
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:30 am

Dude! Read some manuals. Stop being a typical male.Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:42 am

Then go buy a tabletop digital recorder like me. You can just push buttons and rock!
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:19 am

heath = wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:
Then go buy a tabletop digital recorder like me. You can just push buttons and rock!
Does your guitar just plug right into it?

I am wondering the same thing. I know NOTHING about recording and a friend of mine and I have been getting closer and closer to the recording stage with some of the concepts we have come up with ...

I've been thinking of going the tabletop digital recorder route ... are these things pretty user friendly?? Like I said, I know NOTHING.
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:51 pm

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Then go buy a tabletop digital recorder like me. You can just push buttons and rock!


Do you mind posting what you bought and the rest of your set up?
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:58 pm

Minus the new speaker stands I bought today, here is my set up. The board is a Korg D3200 32 track recorder. You CAN plug your guitar (or bass, drums, vocals, etc.) directly into it. For the guitar, though, you might want to get something like the POD that you see standing above the board. You can dial in a plethora of guitar sounds without having to mic your amp.

While the Korg does have a really thick user's manual, it's pretty simple to activate the individual tracks to record. There is also a built in click track so that you can record without drums but keep yourself in time.

Trust me--I'm an idiot. But, using something like this is pretty easy. No, it's not child's play, and it takes some effort to really learn how to get a good sound. There are, however, lots of musicians here who can help one another with tips and tricks regardless of whether you go with digital recorder or computer recording.



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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:49 pm

For monitors you could start here. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Edirol-MA15DBK-Digital-Stereo-Micro-Monitor?sku=600093

For a mic start here. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Shure-SM57-InstrumentVocal-Mic?sku=270102

For a cool program and sound card start here. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Edirol-UA25-USB-Bus-Powered-Stereo-Audio-Interface?sku=705371

There will be some small stuff you will need like a mic stand & cable.
The stuff I picked is not the cheapest but a good place to start. The things I picked are all stuff I either have owned or still own. The mic you will use for the rest of your life. Industry standard. The sound card is good and comes with easy to use and good sounding program. The monitors will do fine for starting and are self powered. These are just suggestions to give you an idea where to start for computer based recording. This is a song writers set-up.Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:50 am

thanks for all the help guys. I have to get saving some $$
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:00 pm

Thanks guitarhoops. How would that Edirol system you posted compare with something such as Mbox 2 Protools. Do they have the same functions and ability to edit tracks the same etc.? I don't know anything about this, but I know somebody who just bought this Mbox 2, and I'm wondering whether it is basically the same thing or if there is a difference between these two recording systems. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Why does mixing have to be so hard????   Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:53 am

The M-box is a good system. They have the same capabilities. The learning curve on the progam is a little harder. And the hardware is a little more fussier with what it requires.
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