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PostSubject: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:24 pm

Ok gang. This is the knowledge I have soked out of others brains.

Tip 1: Make sure your listening source (ie. speakers) are at ear level.

Tip 2: Make sure the distance between the two speakers and your ears forms a equillatral triangle.

Tip 3: Listen to alot of stuff on them and get familliar with them.

Tip 4: Try starting with your mix in mono to set levels. Meaning everything centered in the stereo field. Then when your happy pan the instruments where you would like them. Mixing in this manner will give your songs better stereo imaging on headphones.

Tip 5: If you hear conflicting elements in your mix and eq is not helping try this. Start with all the channels down. Then bring each one up one at a time in order of importance. Starting with the most important tracks first. If you pull up a track that conflicts with the others then you have to decide how important that track is. Chances are it probably isn't that important. Remember less is more.

Tip 6: Eq tips for certain instruments. To get rid of boxiness in your guitar or snare sound try cutting out between 300 and 500 Hz using a narrow Q. To add snap to your snare try boosting around 3.2 kHz. If you want to crisp up an instrument try boosting around 6.5 kHz. If you are recording live drums to clean the over all tone up try this with only the overhead tracks. When mixing try cutting from 400Hz down with a shelving slope on the EQ. And don't be afraid to use the low cut on instruments that are not in the bass range.(ie. everything but the kick and bass)

Tip 7: Don't try to mix for too long. Mix for about a 1/2 hour at a time taking 5 to 10 minute breaks inbetween. When you come back you may hear something new that you didn't hear before.

Tip 8: Listen to your mixes on different stereos. In your car on your mp3 player or discman. Even on your computer. It is good to see how it will sound on different speakers. The more sources the better the idea you will have on what to adjust.

That is all I can think about at this minute. I may add some later. If you have any questions just post them here. I will try to answer them.Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:20 pm

Thanks, Jon. These ideas will help immensely.
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:13 pm

I went and bought a pair of speaker stands today. They were $80 for the set, and this will bring my speakers up to ear height. They are made to be filled with sand to deaden them so that all you hear is what comes through the monitors. Let's see if this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:13 pm

Great tips! I learn from the master! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:02 am

alldatndensum wrote:
I went and bought a pair of speaker stands today. They were $80 for the set, and this will bring my speakers up to ear height. They are made to be filled with sand to deaden them so that all you hear is what comes through the monitors. Let's see if this helps.


Try mixing the sand with some buck shot. It will help deaden them better. It should help alot. Hi end speakers sometimes come with a chamber in the bottom of the cabinet filled the same way. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:03 am

endlessfuneral2003 wrote:
Great tips! I learn from the master! cheers


Same here! Actually a whole bunch of pro audio engineers. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:53 pm

Today mixing is even harder than usual. The lightning storm we are having made me want to shut down my gear to prevent lightning from destroying it. Then, after I shut down everything, the power went off. It's back up now, but I just checked the Weather Channel, and we have more strong storms coming this way.

We need the rain, but I can do without close lightning strikes.
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:05 am

John that is a great list to work from! I wish more people especailly labels and A&R reps understood this! And the drummer too
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:34 am

question 1)that I have is how do you make a heavy rhythm guitar sound skinny yet heavy? Take for example, Dino Cazares tones former guitarist of Fear Factory? I have been working on a heavy tone, yet I need to squeeze it some more till it is a defined edgy bone crunching tone? I hope that makes sense.

question 2) what are some good EQ methods to make sure that the lead and rhythm guitars are distinctive without loosing the integrity of the tone, the feel, sound? Any thoughts would be quite helpful!
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:00 pm

ifbutforone wrote:
question 1)that I have is how do you make a heavy rhythm guitar sound skinny yet heavy? Take for example, Dino Cazares tones former guitarist of Fear Factory? I have been working on a heavy tone, yet I need to squeeze it some more till it is a defined edgy bone crunching tone? I hope that makes sense.

question 2) what are some good EQ methods to make sure that the lead and rhythm guitars are distinctive without loosing the integrity of the tone, the feel, sound? Any thoughts would be quite helpful!


If you want to add more of an edge to your tone boost about 3dB somewhere between 3.2kHz to 6.5kHz. Low cut at 45Hz. Part of the secret to bone crushing tone is to turn the gain down abit and layer the guitars. 2 tracks aside. The bass guitar will give your tone the lows you need. It is how you mix the two instruments that will give you the beef.
For leads add more mids on your amp. It will help the leads to stick out more in the mix without having to turn it up too much. Also light compression on the guitars will add some weight to them. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:42 am

I am liking the signal boost alot, but what about band width?
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:00 pm

Once I started layering 2 guitars 80% on each side, the sound went from good to killer. Guitarhoops is the man! Been using that technique for quite a few months now.

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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:29 pm

When I quit using my POD 2.0 and went to my tube am, I have been able to layer it, and thankfully is does not sound like a dijital mixdown. Now it is a choce between my B52 AT100 and my friends Triple Rec. I might just use both......we shall see! Thanks for all the help, and is it John? I will chat at yall very soon!
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:59 pm

For band width just experiment and yes it is Jon. No 'h' in my name.Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:04 am

cool man! My name is David! I will start doing that. I am just trying to set parametric readings on my old software. Righ tnow I have to set 2 different parameters with adding the 32 plus and taking out the 45 low.....It makes me wish I had more money to buy new software like something better than ACID 4.0
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:09 pm

Awesome thread. I just read your tips, Jon. Great advice.
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:14 pm

Wha..? You already had a post in here dood.... tongue scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:22 pm

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Part of the secret to bone crushing tone is to turn the gain down abit and layer the guitars. 2 tracks aside.


So you are saying to basically lay down 4 rhythm guitar tracks, correct? Or, are you just saying to lay one track panned left and one right?
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:38 am

You d man Jon... good stuff...

Only thing I would ad is:

1.) Enjoy the journey... In other words--mixing and mastering -- while there is a "science" element to it (frequencies, eq, etc.) ... is VERY MUCH an art... and it's something that you just have to keep doing and growing at... the more you do it--the better you will get. So--enjoy the journey...

2) Be a sponge!!!! read everything you can get your hands on... don't be proud... learn from everybody!!!

3) Play your favorite music.. you know-- the stuff you want yours to sound like... through your monitors and REALLY LISTEN... HARD to it... where did the producer place that rythym guitar in the stereo field? How much reverb did they use on the snare? Etc... take notes and then go try to reproduce that in your mix...

Again--great stuff Jon!
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PostSubject: Re: Mixing Tips for those of you who record at home.   Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:33 am

alldatndensum wrote:
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Part of the secret to bone crushing tone is to turn the gain down abit and layer the guitars. 2 tracks aside.


So you are saying to basically lay down 4 rhythm guitar tracks, correct? Or, are you just saying to lay one track panned left and one right?


For true thick sound they have to be recorded more then once. If you copy the track to a new track and pan it it will still come out mono sounding. So yes for really heavy tone record 4 seperate tracks and pan them.
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