New member....Rammstein alternative?

DanTheEldest · Number of posts: 15 Registration date: 2009-11-02

I'm an active forum member in the firearms community, but I just discovered this place while looking for a group of like-minded believers who share my interest in heavy music.

I'm drawing upon the collective knowledge here to see if somebody can point me in the direction of a Christian band with a similar sound to Rammstein. I love the thick industrial sound and Till's vocals, but many of their lyrics and on-stage antics definitely do not pass the Philippians 4:8 test. Any suggestions?

metalheaded · Number of posts: 435 Age: 37 Registration date: 2007-12-01

Don't know for sure, but see what you can find out about the names Marek Sledziewski and Affek. In the movie 'Thr3e', which is based on a Christian serial killer novel by Ted Dekker, there is some music that sounds similar to Rammstein; especially during the credits. I don't know if Affek and/or Marek Sledziewski are Christian, but chances are that they are, being on a Christian movie soundtrack.

My sons are into Rammstein big-time, so I'm always on the alert for other bands that sound similar that aren't so questionable lyrically.

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L8T · Number of posts: 4219 Registration date: 2007-03-13

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deathisgain713 · Number of posts: 465 Age: 39 Registration date: 2009-02-05

I haven't followed the industrial trend much. The only bands I know that come close are some of the older ones such as Circle of Dust, Argyle Park & Klank (all related). Celldweller is the next step of Circle of Dust and is releasing a new album. There is also Monsterus. Hope this helps.

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lutikri55 · Number of posts: 83 Age: 25 Registration date: 2007-04-14

deathisgain713 wrote:

Celldweller is the next step of Circle of Dust and is releasing a new album.

Celldweller isn't a "Christian" band and Klay Scott (or whatever he calls himself now) has made it clear he is no longer a Christian. Just sayin' since OP is asking for Christian alternatives.

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**arttieTHE1manparty** · Subject: Re: New member....Rammstein alternative? Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:59 am

The older stuff was Christian, however.

KLANK sprang immediately to mind.

Leaderdogs For The Blind was another band I thought of.

Deliverance's Assimilation album has industrial/electronica leanings.

There are a few bands that post here who have those stylings as well. Coriolis is one who will also be on our upcoming Deliverance tribute CD/

In all honesty, I am not a fan of Rammstein, so I may be a poor person to respond.

Oh...and welcome to the CMR!

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angelofdarkness · Number of posts: 557 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-05-14

You won't find a band in the christian scene that comes anywhere close to the quality of Rammstein. The new album is AMAZING too!

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metalheaded · Number of posts: 435 Age: 37 Registration date: 2007-12-01

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The new album is AMAZING too!

New album?

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angelofdarkness · Number of posts: 557 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-05-14

Yeah, it just came out a couple of weeks ago.

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metalheaded · Number of posts: 435 Age: 37 Registration date: 2007-12-01

Hmm, didn't know that. Cool.

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**exo** · Number of posts: 8682 Age: 34 Registration date: 2007-04-07

Yeah, just.....uh.....be aware that you probably don't really wish to see the video for the lead single of the new album.....lol

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strangerhoncho · Number of posts: 357 Registration date: 2007-04-20

I actually think some of Saviour Machine's heavier songs remind me of Rammstein.

angelofdarkness · Number of posts: 557 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-05-14

exo wrote:

Yeah, just.....uh.....be aware that you probably don't really wish to see the video for the lead single of the new album.....lol

I've already seen it...i'm sure jessrox would have a thing or two to say about that one.

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Stender · Number of posts: 252 Age: 19 Registration date: 2009-06-25

Welcome! I hate rammstein so I cant offer you any suggestions. sorry man!

Static Fuse · Number of posts: 288 Registration date: 2008-12-14

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Celldweller isn't a "Christian" band and Klay Scott (or whatever he calls himself now) has made it clear he is no longer a Christian. Just sayin' since OP is asking for Christian alternatives.

Wow, I hadn't read anything where he clearly said he is no longer a Christian (although I haven't followed Klayton in a while, so maybe I'm just behind thet times). But a lot of times when people discuss this, they're referring to his HM interview from a few years back:

In the first part here, yes, he is disullusioned with the Christian music industry:

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Here's a little history for you. I was born and raised in a ‘Christian' household. I had no choice. When you're a kid, you do as you're told. (My parents did what they felt right and I hold no blame towards them whatsoever. ) I spent most of my youth in church learning to fear eternal damnation if I looked at someone the wrong way or entertained an ‘evil' thought. God forbid I was even remotely human. Enter pubescence and ‘young adulthood.' By this point my brainwashing is almost complete. I am a droid doing ‘the work of the Lord'???? No, doing big church-man's version of ‘the work of the Lord' actually. Now I'm getting older and starting to commit the unforgivable crime — I'm doubting. Somewhere during this time comes an opportunity to sign a record deal. Yeah , I know it's a ‘Christian' label (that's another joke to tell some other time...), but I'm gonna get to put out my own CD's so who cares? Fast forward through years of more disillusionment and hypocrisy and we get back to your original question and the game of telephone. One main reason I did this interview is because I think any fans (or former fans after the interview?) deserve to know the answers to some questions they've been asking for the last few years. I did in fact make a conscious decision some time back to disassociate myself from the ‘Christian' scene, whatever that is. I started coming out in the ‘Christian' press making statements that holier-than-thous thought were not acceptable. Before you know it, rumors are flying... drugs , sex, Satanism...( hey, even if it were true, it's not so far off from what you're present day ‘Christian' artists are involved in. Surprise...!). I remember taking a week off after the Cornerstone fest the last year we played. A friend had tracked me down at the place I was staying to ‘break the news to me' that according to a bunch of people at the fest that I was dealing drugs out of our tour van. Me?? To this day, I have not so much as smoked a cigarette, never mind dealing drugs. In retrospect, if I had been a drug dealer instead of getting trapped into the ‘Christian' scene for a time, I probably would have less problems. At least if I got stabbed in the back or shot, it wasn't coming from someone who is supposed to ‘love' me..."

Note that he only talks about being against the industry, not God... and then check this part out:

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I do want to make it clear that there is a distinct separation between God and man in my mind. God is not the reason for my problems (man-made). He didn't betray me (man did). He didn't irreparably eviscerate my self-image (man's interpretation of Him did). He didn't molest dozens of children in our happy little church and sweep the whole issue under the proverbial carpet (man did). And if I remember it correctly, He didn't take a bite out of the fruit in the Garden of Eden either.

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**exo** · Number of posts: 8682 Age: 34 Registration date: 2007-04-07

Static Fuse wrote:

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I do want to make it clear that there is a distinct separation between God and man in my mind. God is not the reason for my problems (man-made). He didn't betray me (man did). He didn't irreparably eviscerate my self-image (man's interpretation of Him did). He didn't molest dozens of children in our happy little church and sweep the whole issue under the proverbial carpet (man did). And if I remember it correctly, He didn't take a bite out of the fruit in the Garden of Eden either.

You know, that exact sentiment was the very thing that kept me from turning my back on Christianity as a whole during my late teens and early 20s. There's some power to the words......

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DanTheEldest · Number of posts: 15 Registration date: 2009-11-02

Thanks for the suggestions that have been made....I've been away from the Christian music scene since my Stryper, Guardian, and Tourniquet days. My tastes have changed since then and I'm getting serious about finding some good newer stuff; Demon Hunter got me back into it.

+1 to not finding the sheer quality of Rammstein's work in the Christian market. Their stuff is just so polished it's hard to compare it. Their sound is so close to what I consider my "ideal" I may just have to make some playlists that leave off the offensive songs and enjoy the rest. The thick guitars, deep operatic vocals, and tasteful background touches give it a real depth....it really stirs the (almost full-blooded) German in me, which could have something to do with it.

Ditto on the new video--I've heard about it while researching the band. (Not planning to watch it.) Thanks for the welcome and I'll see what else is going on around here.

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Bribanez · Number of posts: 178 Registration date: 2009-08-12

angelofdarkness wrote:

You won't find a band in the christian scene that comes anywhere close to the quality of Rammstein.

You mean close the quality or Rammstein in that style, right? Not the overall Christian scene?

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angelofdarkness · Number of posts: 557 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-05-14

A little bit of both actually. I'd be hard pressed to find even a secular artist that has the complete package of Rammstein. Listen to the new album and tell me that there is a production job even close to that in any market for metal.

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**exo** · Number of posts: 8682 Age: 34 Registration date: 2007-04-07

Well, that totally depends on genre of metal. there are styles that would sound absolutely terrible done this way.

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