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waslizzythin?

Number of posts: 218 Registration date: 2007-04-07
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Number of posts: 3350 Age: 46 Registration date: 2007-04-08
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:08 pm | |
| I have his "Top 500 Metal Albums" book. _________________ "I'm wrong about fifty percent of the time, I'm just not sure wich fifty percent!"
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waslizzythin?

Number of posts: 218 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:20 pm | |
| ......I need to pick up his Guide To Southern Rock as well. I really enjoyed style of writing. it was like a couple of buddies just throwing out ideas on CDs while just hanging out.................. |
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Number of posts: 3350 Age: 46 Registration date: 2007-04-08
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:23 pm | |
| I want to pick up his book on Rush. _________________ "I'm wrong about fifty percent of the time, I'm just not sure wich fifty percent!"
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angelofdarkness

Number of posts: 542 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-05-14
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:55 am | |
| I have the "Collector's Guide To Heavy Metal" book. I gotta say that he comes across as VERY biased against most forms of metal except for traditional metal and classic rock. If you read some of the reviews you can get a clear picture of who his favourite bands are and who they aren't. I think that, to review bands and music properly, you have to be objective about the music styles themsleves and see how they relate to a fan of that style. If you're not a fan of black metal, then you shouldn't be reviewing a black metal album.....unless you just want to give all black metal albums low scores across the board, which is pretty much what he does. |
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waslizzythin?

Number of posts: 218 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:03 am | |
| | angelofdarkness wrote: | | I have the "Collector's Guide To Heavy Metal" book. I gotta say that he comes across as VERY biased against most forms of metal except for traditional metal and classic rock. If you read some of the reviews you can get a clear picture of who his favourite bands are and who they aren't. I think that, to review bands and music properly, you have to be objective about the music styles themsleves and see how they relate to a fan of that style. If you're not a fan of black metal, then you shouldn't be reviewing a black metal album.....unless you just want to give all black metal albums low scores across the board, which is pretty much what he does. |
.......I agree with you, and with him! I'm 49, and I find it hard to review that which I don't understand, and don't really prefer to listen to. I would have to guess for a certain demographic he's right on the money. If you ever go look at some of his newer reviews on the Brave Words And Bloody Knuckles website you will find he has softened his views on black metal. |
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ultmetal

Number of posts: 3339 Registration date: 2006-12-26
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:46 am | |
| I have all four Collector's Guide. As long as you understand his tastes, they are ok. He doesn't like 99.9% of all thrash bands. He loves groove based bands, grunge and classic metal. He tends to bag on a lot of pop and glam bands. Some of his reviews are just flat out the opposite of what I think. Stryper is one example where he rates these guys very, very low, I would rate them very very high. He also reviews Ultimatum's Symphonic Extremities. He gives it a low rating, due to the production, which is fine considering what that album was (basically demo material) and the fact that it is his opinion. He does comment on liking my vocals, which is cool. However, he adds a little comment at the end saying that the band has released several other albums since with no improvements. This is not opinion, this is just flat out incorrect. However, on other reviews he is dead on. He give Mortification's "Hammer of God" a great review. Most people I know tend to bag on that album, but I think it's one of Morty's best as well. He does have a lot of underground stuff, but he is far from exhaustive. He is missing a lot black metal, death metal, thrash metal and a ton of Christian stuff. He's missing some classic bands like Deliverance, Vengeance Rising, Guardian, Recon, Precious Death, Bride, The Crucified, Holy Soldier, Barren Cross, etc. etc. However, he manages to review X-Sinner, Tamplin, Believer, One Bad Pig, Mortification and Ultimatum. Go figure _________________   |
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waslizzythin?

Number of posts: 218 Registration date: 2007-04-07
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:03 am | |
| | ultmetal wrote: | I have all four Collector's Guide. As long as you understand his tastes, they are ok. He doesn't like 99.9% of all thrash bands. He loves groove based bands, grunge and classic metal. He tends to bag on a lot of pop and glam bands.
Some of his reviews are just flat out the opposite of what I think. Stryper is one example where he rates these guys very, very low, I would rate them very very high.
He also reviews Ultimatum's Symphonic Extremities. He gives it a low rating, due to the production, which is fine considering what that album was (basically demo material) and the fact that it is his opinion. He does comment on liking my vocals, which is cool. However, he adds a little comment at the end saying that the band has released several other albums since with no improvements. This is not opinion, this is just flat out incorrect.
However, on other reviews he is dead on. He give Mortification's "Hammer of God" a great review. Most people I know tend to bag on that album, but I think it's one of Morty's best as well.
He does have a lot of underground stuff, but he is far from exhaustive. He is missing a lot black metal, death metal, thrash metal and a ton of Christian stuff. He's missing some classic bands like Deliverance, Vengeance Rising, Guardian, Recon, Precious Death, Bride, The Crucified, Holy Soldier, Barren Cross, etc. etc. However, he manages to review X-Sinner, Tamplin, Believer, One Bad Pig, Mortification and Ultimatum. Go figure |
.....I'm in agreement with your spin Scott. I guess my view was it turned into a neat tool to find stuff I hadn't found prior to reading the book. I noticed a lot of gaps in his coverage, but in all honesty it's a pretty daunitng task trying to cover as much ground as the metal genre does. I was just happy to find litttle gems that I had no clue existed. .....and based on Popoff's list of non metal bands he likes he's as much a fan of rock in general as he is metal.......... |
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Black Rider Man in Morph

Number of posts: 14438 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-04-09
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:07 am | |
| Write a book Ult. I think you know as much as anyone about metal. _________________ I don't have time for all if it, so I pick my battles. I concentrate on spotting and weeding out satanic paper, handkerchiefs (do you really want Satan that close to your nose?) and eggs. I can spot satanic eggs at Wal Mart like a frickin' drug sniffing dog.
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strangerhoncho
Number of posts: 330 Registration date: 2007-04-20
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:20 am | |
| I read The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal cover to cover every day in college (this was back in '94, when it was one volume). I love Popoff's style and agreed with most of his opinions. As long as you figure out his tastes it's the best guide ever written, by far. Even the stuff I like that he didn't, I still found his opinions valid. I just love his crazy use of language, which he's unfortunately toned down as he's aged. I've emailed with him a few times, and sent him a bunch of Christian metal dubbed on tape (this was '94!), like Tourniquet, Precious Death, Betrayal, etc, hoping he'd put them into the next edition. I don't think he did, but I haven't checked the newer editions. For what it's worth I do remember him telling me via email that he was a Christian and went to church. Back then, anyway. |
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mr.electric39

Number of posts: 1304 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-02-03
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Number of posts: 3350 Age: 46 Registration date: 2007-04-08
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mr.electric39

Number of posts: 1304 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-02-03
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:53 pm | |
| | candlemass wrote: | | mr.electric39 wrote: | I have his book about Rush 'Contents Under Pressure'...
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How is it?
I think he's ok, a bit long winded and full of himself though. |
If you're a Rush fan you'll enjoy it. It's a review of each of their albums with Alex, Geddy and Neil's recollections of that time period. Tour, recording process. I loved the book myself. There are some great photos as well. |
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waslizzythin?

Number of posts: 218 Registration date: 2007-04-07
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Number of posts: 3350 Age: 46 Registration date: 2007-04-08
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:27 am | |
| Me, a Rush fan?  _________________ "I'm wrong about fifty percent of the time, I'm just not sure wich fifty percent!"
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mr.electric39

Number of posts: 1304 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-02-03
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:04 pm | |
| | candlemass wrote: | Me, a Rush fan?  |
Not quite sure which way to take that.... hmmmm..... I would say no??? Me.... is there any doubt??? |
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Number of posts: 3350 Age: 46 Registration date: 2007-04-08
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:28 am | |
| Oh, I love Rush, just saw a Rush tribute last Saturday, they were really good!  _________________ "I'm wrong about fifty percent of the time, I'm just not sure wich fifty percent!"
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candlemass The Idiot Formerley Known As The Changeling

Number of posts: 3350 Age: 46 Registration date: 2007-04-08
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:59 am | |
| Brothers? _________________ "I'm wrong about fifty percent of the time, I'm just not sure wich fifty percent!"
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paladin
Number of posts: 2 Registration date: 2009-07-03
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:32 pm | |
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No, Popoff is a very popular surname in Bulgaria. The "pastor" is from Bulgarian origin, I guess Martin Popoff is from Bulgarian origin as well. |
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mr.electric39

Number of posts: 1304 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-02-03
 | Subject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:56 pm | |
| | candlemass wrote: | Oh, I love Rush, just saw a Rush tribute last Saturday, they were really good!  |
I would think you'd really dig the book. What is interesting is hearing the bands take on each of their own albums... They discuss how difficult it was to record Hemispheres and Grace Under Pressure. It was a real good read imo. |
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