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PostSubject: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:58 pm

...I'm curious if any of you read the subject book by Martin Popoff? A fun read, and full of a lot of great bands that were under the radar, many of which could usually be found in the bargain bin. Here are some vids from some of my favorite "finds"......

War Babies / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHFkWVysn3s

Power Trio From Hell / http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=512ADB50145FFF94&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=54HBqoNjcK0

Colliison / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLult2waLk&feature=related

Anacrusis / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3RFVFkkpvA

Watch Tower / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw1lxY_Cyks&feature=related
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:08 pm

I have his "Top 500 Metal Albums" book.

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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:20 pm

......I need to pick up his Guide To Southern Rock as well. I really enjoyed style of writing. it was like a couple of buddies just throwing out ideas on CDs while just hanging out..................
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:23 pm

I want to pick up his book on Rush.

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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:55 am

I have the "Collector's Guide To Heavy Metal" book. I gotta say that he comes across as VERY biased against most forms of metal except for traditional metal and classic rock. If you read some of the reviews you can get a clear picture of who his favourite bands are and who they aren't. I think that, to review bands and music properly, you have to be objective about the music styles themsleves and see how they relate to a fan of that style. If you're not a fan of black metal, then you shouldn't be reviewing a black metal album.....unless you just want to give all black metal albums low scores across the board, which is pretty much what he does.
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:03 am

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I have the "Collector's Guide To Heavy Metal" book. I gotta say that he comes across as VERY biased against most forms of metal except for traditional metal and classic rock. If you read some of the reviews you can get a clear picture of who his favourite bands are and who they aren't. I think that, to review bands and music properly, you have to be objective about the music styles themsleves and see how they relate to a fan of that style. If you're not a fan of black metal, then you shouldn't be reviewing a black metal album.....unless you just want to give all black metal albums low scores across the board, which is pretty much what he does.


.......I agree with you, and with him! I'm 49, and I find it hard to review that which I don't understand, and don't really prefer to listen to. I would have to guess for a certain demographic he's right on the money. If you ever go look at some of his newer reviews on the Brave Words And Bloody Knuckles website you will find he has softened his views on black metal.
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:46 am

I have all four Collector's Guide. As long as you understand his tastes, they are ok. He doesn't like 99.9% of all thrash bands. He loves groove based bands, grunge and classic metal. He tends to bag on a lot of pop and glam bands.

Some of his reviews are just flat out the opposite of what I think. Stryper is one example where he rates these guys very, very low, I would rate them very very high.

He also reviews Ultimatum's Symphonic Extremities. He gives it a low rating, due to the production, which is fine considering what that album was (basically demo material) and the fact that it is his opinion. He does comment on liking my vocals, which is cool. However, he adds a little comment at the end saying that the band has released several other albums since with no improvements. This is not opinion, this is just flat out incorrect.

However, on other reviews he is dead on. He give Mortification's "Hammer of God" a great review. Most people I know tend to bag on that album, but I think it's one of Morty's best as well.

He does have a lot of underground stuff, but he is far from exhaustive. He is missing a lot black metal, death metal, thrash metal and a ton of Christian stuff. He's missing some classic bands like Deliverance, Vengeance Rising, Guardian, Recon, Precious Death, Bride, The Crucified, Holy Soldier, Barren Cross, etc. etc. However, he manages to review X-Sinner, Tamplin, Believer, One Bad Pig, Mortification and Ultimatum. Go figure

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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:03 am

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I have all four Collector's Guide. As long as you understand his tastes, they are ok. He doesn't like 99.9% of all thrash bands. He loves groove based bands, grunge and classic metal. He tends to bag on a lot of pop and glam bands.

Some of his reviews are just flat out the opposite of what I think. Stryper is one example where he rates these guys very, very low, I would rate them very very high.

He also reviews Ultimatum's Symphonic Extremities. He gives it a low rating, due to the production, which is fine considering what that album was (basically demo material) and the fact that it is his opinion. He does comment on liking my vocals, which is cool. However, he adds a little comment at the end saying that the band has released several other albums since with no improvements. This is not opinion, this is just flat out incorrect.

However, on other reviews he is dead on. He give Mortification's "Hammer of God" a great review. Most people I know tend to bag on that album, but I think it's one of Morty's best as well.

He does have a lot of underground stuff, but he is far from exhaustive. He is missing a lot black metal, death metal, thrash metal and a ton of Christian stuff. He's missing some classic bands like Deliverance, Vengeance Rising, Guardian, Recon, Precious Death, Bride, The Crucified, Holy Soldier, Barren Cross, etc. etc. However, he manages to review X-Sinner, Tamplin, Believer, One Bad Pig, Mortification and Ultimatum. Go figure


.....I'm in agreement with your spin Scott. I guess my view was it turned into a neat tool to find stuff I hadn't found prior to reading the book. I noticed a lot of gaps in his coverage, but in all honesty it's a pretty daunitng task trying to cover as much ground as the metal genre does. I was just happy to find litttle gems that I had no clue existed. .....and based on Popoff's list of non metal bands he likes he's as much a fan of rock in general as he is metal..........
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:07 am

Write a book Ult. I think you know as much as anyone about metal.

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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:20 am

I read The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal cover to cover every day in college (this was back in '94, when it was one volume). I love Popoff's style and agreed with most of his opinions. As long as you figure out his tastes it's the best guide ever written, by far. Even the stuff I like that he didn't, I still found his opinions valid. I just love his crazy use of language, which he's unfortunately toned down as he's aged.

I've emailed with him a few times, and sent him a bunch of Christian metal dubbed on tape (this was '94!), like Tourniquet, Precious Death, Betrayal, etc, hoping he'd put them into the next edition. I don't think he did, but I haven't checked the newer editions.

For what it's worth I do remember him telling me via email that he was a Christian and went to church. Back then, anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:03 pm

I have his book about Rush 'Contents Under Pressure'...



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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:42 pm

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I have his book about Rush 'Contents Under Pressure'...



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How is it?

I think he's ok, a bit long winded and full of himself though.

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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:53 pm

candlemass wrote:
mr.electric39 wrote:
I have his book about Rush 'Contents Under Pressure'...



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How is it?

I think he's ok, a bit long winded and full of himself though.


If you're a Rush fan you'll enjoy it. It's a review of each of their albums with Alex, Geddy and Neil's recollections of that time period. Tour, recording process. I loved the book myself.

cheers

There are some great photos as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:44 pm

mr.electric39 wrote:
candlemass wrote:
mr.electric39 wrote:
I have his book about Rush 'Contents Under Pressure'...



Twisted Evil


How is it?

I think he's ok, a bit long winded and full of himself though.


If you're a Rush fan you'll enjoy it. It's a review of each of their albums with Alex, Geddy and Neil's recollections of that time period. Tour, recording process. I loved the book myself.

cheers

There are some great photos as well.


...I think due to the lack of musical reference books you sort of take what you get. There are oddles of biographies, but not much in the way of background info. I just finished reading "Fargo Rock City", and was a bit underwhelmed. It was geared toward hair metal fan's alomst exclusively, and the top tier ones at that........
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:27 am

Me, a Rush fan? Jester

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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:04 pm

candlemass wrote:
Me, a Rush fan? Jester



Suspect

Not quite sure which way to take that.... hmmmm..... I would say no???


Me.... is there any doubt???
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:28 am

Oh, I love Rush, just saw a Rush tribute last Saturday, they were really good!

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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:59 am

Brothers?

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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:32 pm

candlemass wrote:
Brothers?


No, Popoff is a very popular surname in Bulgaria. The "pastor" is from Bulgarian origin, I guess Martin Popoff is from Bulgarian origin as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Martin Popoff / Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal   Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:56 pm

candlemass wrote:
Oh, I love Rush, just saw a Rush tribute last Saturday, they were really good!


I would think you'd really dig the book. What is interesting is hearing the bands take on each of their own albums... They discuss how difficult it was to record Hemispheres and Grace Under Pressure. It was a real good read imo.
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