Amon Amarth and other secular bands

wv_metaller4christ · Number of posts: 563 Age: 23 Registration date: 2009-06-02

I used to be a HUGE fan of theirs but recently have had more than a few second thoughts on continuing my support for them. I have taken a liking for Pyramaze recently and a few secular bands I still like are Kryoburn, Threat Signal, Cannae, God Forbid, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, and a small handful of others.

lutikri55 · Number of posts: 82 Age: 25 Registration date: 2007-04-14

I've never listened to Amon Amarth but my question is this: why are you having second thoughts on continuing support for their music?

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wv_metaller4christ · Number of posts: 563 Age: 23 Registration date: 2009-06-02

well cause they have an anti-Christian outlook and it seems like they have to have at least one song that attacks my God and I don't like that anymore.

lutikri55 · Number of posts: 82 Age: 25 Registration date: 2007-04-14

wv_metaller4christ wrote:

well cause they have an anti-Christian outlook and it seems like they have to have at least one song that attacks my God and I don't like that anymore.

Oh okay. Hmm. Personally, I find it humorous that a band which gets their name from J.R.R. Tolkein's novels is anti-Christian. Still wouldn't listen to them now that I know this fact.

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angelofdarkness · Number of posts: 542 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-05-14

Amon Amarth are harmless.....they are Viking death metal...plain and simple....it's not like they're Akercocke or anything.

BackFromTheDawn · Number of posts: 4573 Age: 23 Registration date: 2007-05-19

You should talk to exo, he's the Amon Amarth junkie here.

I can appreciate removing certain bands from your catalog. The important thing is that you think and pray about it if you feel it is a problem.

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**exo** · Number of posts: 8533 Age: 34 Registration date: 2007-04-07

I'm the Amon Amarth junkie alright Very Happy

They've actually got a few songs that can be construed to be anti-Christian.....and personally, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I've heard that Johan Hegg, far from being an Odinist, is actually atheist in outlook.....so, essentially, a guy that doesnt believe in God is singing about worshipping Odin (somewhat ironic) and being a viking....he's writing fiction and retelling stories in his lyrics. "where is your God now?" is actually a fictional Viking mocking his fallen foes, not necessarily an out and out bit of anit-Christian rhetoric.

With them hailing from a country where there is an outlook in some circles that the indigenous culture was trampled underneath the heals of Christendom, it's nto too difficult to understand the sentiments behind a song like "Thousand Years of Oppression"....Everyone has their outlooks on Christianity....and it helps to remember that a LOT of anti-=Christian sentiments arise from misconceptions and preconcieved notions....there's a lot of misunderstanding and "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" so to speak.

If it troubles you, that much....then, by all means, follow where you are led, and ditch them. There's nothing wrong with that. But it NEVER hurts to examine things more fully, and ask yourself "is what I think is meant ACTUALLY the message they're giving? or am I not seeing the whole picture?" BEFORE you make a decision.

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**Tall Tyrion** · Number of posts: 10044 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28

I always thought that Amon Amarth's vocals sucked eggs.

Never had to explore beyond that point. Smile

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wv_metaller4christ · Number of posts: 563 Age: 23 Registration date: 2009-06-02

Exo, there should be more people like you. seriously lol. Well, as far as examining the picture goes, thats the way I felt before about just taking the history for what it is, but what bothers me about them is the album With Oden On Our Side. It in itself is awesome but I noticed on the cd it looks like 666 is written on it. Which people all the time make fusses over symbols that resemble that number but this really looks like it if i have ever seen it

angelofdarkness · Number of posts: 542 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-05-14

That's a tribal design on the cd.....not the number 666. People are going to see what they want to see to back up their own feelings on things. Anti-christian/secular rock people like Jeff Godwin have been doing that for decades.

Follower of Jesus · Number of posts: 3284 Age: 36 Registration date: 2007-04-07

I have had times where I had to put a band away because of a few songs that really bugged me lyrically. Even if I heard later that the lyrics were not quite what I thought they were, I have still had to give them up for my own peace of mind. I know others listen to the same bands with no problems. I don't understand that, and they don't understand my problem. Each of us must live with our own conscience, and with what God has revealed to us. It may be that I'm weaker than those other brothers, so God keeps me away from those bands to preserve my faith. Who knows? Just do yourself a favor and don't force it. If you feel a lack of peace listening to a band, get rid of that band's music. Sometimes its hard, but we're always better off following God's leading in our heart.

**exo** · Number of posts: 8533 Age: 34 Registration date: 2007-04-07

Follower of Jesus wrote:

I have had times where I had to put a band away because of a few songs that really bugged me lyrically. Even if I heard later that the lyrics were not quite what I thought they were, I have still had to give them up for my own peace of mind. I know others listen to the same bands with no problems. I don't understand that, and they don't understand my problem. Each of us must live with our own conscience, and with what God has revealed to us. It may be that I'm weaker than those other brothers, so God keeps me away from those bands to preserve my faith. Who knows? Just do yourself a favor and don't force it. If you feel a lack of peace listening to a band, get rid of that band's music. Sometimes its hard, but we're always better off following God's leading in our heart.

+1,000

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Dwarven gravitational theory states that enough ale will make anything fall down.

Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "Hey, is there room in your head for one more?"

Grimmo · Number of posts: 472 Age: 40 Registration date: 2008-11-16

Yes, I do own all of Amon Amarth's cds. I examined all the lyrics closely, and I also knew that as Johan Hegg identifies himself as an Atheist, the theme of AA's music is primarily Norse/Viking mythology. Even though I feel quite comfortable listening to these guys, I do understand where you are coming from. My heart for Jesus means that I won't listen to bands such as Deicide, Slayer, Immolation and many others.
As each one of us undertakes his/her journey in life on God's earth, Our Lord may convict/or place on our hearts/consciences what bands/albums we can or can't listen to.
For different folk, this could be different albums/artists. Each one of our lives for Jesus is unique. If you feel that some artist/album is at odds with your relationship with Jesus, then you are probably meant to get rid of it. I've experience this myself.
I respect anyone's decision, whether it be from Jesus or their own conscience in regards to these kind of matters.
Let's be thankful for the great multitude of awesome metal/music out there ... at the end of the day, there is something out there for everyone to enjoy!
Metal Banana

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Stender · Number of posts: 228 Age: 19 Registration date: 2009-06-25

wv_metaller4christ wrote:

well cause they have an anti-Christian outlook and it seems like they have to have at least one song that attacks my God and I don't like that anymore.

I dont like any of the bands you listed, but in any secular music...I think to a large degree lyrics are just put together to invoke a reaction or for pure shock value(not to say that the enemy still cant use the music and artists for bad things though...), so I have a very hard time taking anything secular seriously anymore, I can listen to Slayer no problem, especially being rooted in the word and knowing that secular music in general isnt going to expand my walk so why open yourself to it in extreme amounts?.....like the programmers from the original dos would say "garbage in, garbage out"...

GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: Amon Amarth and other secular bands Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:27 am

Points:

1. Exo said:

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"where is your God now?" is actually a fictional Viking mocking his fallen foes

Yeah......there was no *love lost* between the Viking pagans and Christians.

The Vikings were somewhat antagonistic until the start of the 11th Century. Some places they got along O.K. with Christians, other places not so much. Neutral

2. FOJ said:

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<table cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><tr><td colSpan=2>I have had times where I had to put a band away because of a few songs that really bugged me lyrically. Even if I heard later that the lyrics were not quite what I thought they were, I have still had to give them up for my own peace of mind. I know others listen to the same bands with no problems. I don't understand that, and they don't understand my problem. Each of us must live with our own conscience, and with what God has revealed to us. It may be that I'm weaker than those other brothers, so God keeps me away from those bands to preserve my faith. Who knows? Just do yourself a favor and don't force it. If you feel a lack of peace listening to a band, get rid of that band's music. Sometimes its hard, but we're always better off following God's leading in our heart.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good post. Spot on. Twisted Evil

3. Hey Metaller4Christ, just do what your conscience tells you. Don't *fight it* if GOD tells you not to listen to a *certain* something. No biggie IMO. There's 27,000 other CDs for you to get. You just don't have to listen to what *pricks* your conscience and makes you uneasy to listen to.

KISS

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**Black Rider** · Man in Morph Number of posts: 14430 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-04-09

I understand the original post and think Stender and exo have posted some good stuff. This is personal and between you and God though nothing wrong with asking what others think.

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wv_metaller4christ · Number of posts: 563 Age: 23 Registration date: 2009-06-02

thanks guys. I am having a hard time giving up a few other bands. Lamb of God being one of them. I used to litterally worship those guys. I have three albums signed by them...

GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: Amon Amarth and other secular bands Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:02 pm

From ^^^^ above ^^^^:

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I am having a hard time giving up a few other bands.

Been there......done that. Neutral

Seriously dude......a lot of us here at the CMR can relate. Meh.....some of us. You are among peers. Neutral

Just be obedient to what the SPIRIT is telling you through thought, prayer, Bible study, and......your *gut*. scratch

The plusses of such obedience will vastly outweigh the negatives. The negatives are.......passing and short term. The plusses will last forever. Cool

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Stender · Number of posts: 228 Age: 19 Registration date: 2009-06-25

One thing I would like to add, although it may be pretty tough to dump a secular band you have been tracking with for years...it seems there is almost always a christian alternative to replace that one band.

I know where your coming from though bro.

KingsRite · Number of posts: 1498 Age: 39 Registration date: 2008-07-23

I love Lance era Pyramaze.

I have never heard another band that has that same sound as is on those albums.

It almost has a cosmic sound to it.

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