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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:10 pm

I'll throw in my PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:20 pm

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Anyone know how many of these were released? I think I heard 100 somewhere, but does anyone know for sure?


That number is pretty accurate. I know my buddy Davey J. was approached with 25 of them back in 1988. He bought all of them and gave 'em away to friends who wanted them. They are all gone... But the number produced of 100 is probably somewhat accurate....


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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:38 pm

Apparently nobody here knows the Tale of Tempest.

Sometime after recording this demo, Warren Harris became convinced that metal was of the devil. This is why they vanished as a band, and why the demo never reached a release bigger than 100.

The lore is that not only did he destroy any tapes he had left, but that he also sought out copies that he'd sold/given to destroy those as well.

Due to this, the thought is that there might be as few as 75 that actually made it out into the wild, with even less than that surviving his purge.

Van Pelt and HM covered this a bit back in the day, as did Kevin at White Throne. The rarity of this tape also played a part in the Number One Son scandal, as they claimed to have copies for sale when they clearly did not.
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:55 pm

Yeah, I had heard this as well. But I had also heard that from a pretty good source who knows both Warren and Tim that if interest was strong enough that a reissue with some unreleased stuff might be possible. I have also heard that Warren no longer feels his old music was of the Devil. He just got mixed up with the wrong church for a time.

The Number Son Scandal is whole another kettle of fish.

The story I got on Number One and one in which I believe to be true is the guy ( The Father ) who was running Number Son died suddenly and his son took the money but did not fullfill any of the orders. It went farther, he looked at the orders to see what was the most popular stuff and ran ads claiming to have this stuff. The guy ( The son ) was a complete crook!

Thanks for all the input lets keep this thread alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:22 pm

If that's true, yeah, they could charge almost any price for a cleaned-up digital version of the Tempest tunes. Like many, I had the two clean songs from White Metal Show and a 4th generation copy of the whole thing that sounded like it was recorded off of an AM radio in a snowstorm under a waterfall.

As for Number One Son, I have no idea, and it's -long- over, it's just an interesting note on Tempest that the demand for this tape was so high, many (including me) sent money to order it even after they'd heard things at NOS were getting shady.
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:35 pm

xDarkRidex wrote:
Apparently nobody here knows the Tale of Tempest.

Sometime after recording this demo, Warren Harris became convinced that metal was of the devil. This is why they vanished as a band, and why the demo never reached a release bigger than 100.

The lore is that not only did he destroy any tapes he had left, but that he also sought out copies that he'd sold/given to destroy those as well.

Due to this, the thought is that there might be as few as 75 that actually made it out into the wild, with even less than that surviving his purge.

Van Pelt and HM covered this a bit back in the day, as did Kevin at White Throne. The rarity of this tape also played a part in the Number One Son scandal, as they claimed to have copies for sale when they clearly did not.



Bro you pretty much reported what I reported back then. Glad someone remembers!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:08 pm

I lost a lot of money to number one son, I was not happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:21 pm

NoahsFaith wrote:
I lost a lot of money to number one son, I was not happy



A lot of folks did. A lot. It was a really sad depressing story...
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:42 am

Number One Son? What was this? When was this? Just wondering.

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:15 pm

I think it was in the late 80s. I wonder if he ever got nailed for fraud?
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:01 pm

when you say Tempest it screams a young Jamie Rowe. Sorry this is the only band i will have ever listen to or own. I will not own another group by the say name.
Vegeance and had to change to vegeance rising. So should this band

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:06 pm

classic_christian_rocker wrote:
when you say Tempest it screams a young Jamie Rowe. Sorry this is the only band i will have ever listen to or own. I will not own another group by the say name.
Vegeance and had to change to vegeance rising. So should this band


Yea, but the Problem is The Warren Harris led Tempest predates the Rowe brothers Tempest. It has even been said that Pure Metal was interested in signing the Tempest by Harris but that Gavin Morkel got the demos by the two bands confused or mixed up. Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:07 am

325ad wrote:

Yea, but the Problem is The Warren Harris led Tempest predates the Rowe brothers Tempest. It has even been said that Pure Metal was interested in signing the Tempest by Harris but that Gavin Morkel got the demos by the two bands confused or mixed up. Embarassed


I cry shenanigans on that rumor. The Rowe's got intro'd to Pure Metal by the Thompsons, if memory serves, who they were very close with. After 'A Coming Storm' they even used at least one tune written by Bride. Only heard it once, live, 'Edge of Hell'. Fantastic tune. Then they went glam. Oh well. Smile

Anyway. Yeah, no way did Morkel in 1988 confuse two teenage bros from Indiana with a 1984-ish demo from a power trio lead by a metal-hating musical genius. Morkel was a lot of things, but he wasn't that big of an idiot.

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:13 am

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I cry shenanigans on that rumor. The Rowe's got intro'd to Pure Metal by the Thompsons, if memory serves, who they were very close with. After 'A Coming Storm' they even used at least one tune written by Bride. Only heard it once, live, 'Edge of Hell'. Fantastic tune. Then they went glam. Oh well. Smile

Anyway. Yeah, no way did Morkel in 1988 confuse two teenage bros from Indiana with a 1984-ish demo from a power trio lead by a metal-hating musical genius. Morkel was a lot of things, but he wasn't that big of an idiot.


Where did you see Tempest live?
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:22 am

xDarkRidex wrote:
325ad wrote:

Yea, but the Problem is The Warren Harris led Tempest predates the Rowe brothers Tempest. It has even been said that Pure Metal was interested in signing the Tempest by Harris but that Gavin Morkel got the demos by the two bands confused or mixed up. Embarassed


I cry shenanigans on that rumor. The Rowe's got intro'd to Pure Metal by the Thompsons, if memory serves, who they were very close with. After 'A Coming Storm' they even used at least one tune written by Bride. Only heard it once, live, 'Edge of Hell'. Fantastic tune. Then they went glam. Oh well. Smile

Anyway. Yeah, no way did Morkel in 1988 confuse two teenage bros from Indiana with a 1984-ish demo from a power trio lead by a metal-hating musical genius. Morkel was a lot of things, but he wasn't that big of an idiot.



2 points.... 1st Annilation of the Wicked came out in 1986...

2nd is that this story of mis-identification is exactly what was communicated to the editor of White Throne by one of the guys from Pure Metal.... that's the straight scoop...
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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:51 am

pershing1134 wrote:

Where did you see Tempest live?


The Rowe Bro. Tempest? Lots of places over the years. Metal Fest, C-Stone, Missouri, Oklahoma. Never saw the original Tempest at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:57 am

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2 points.... 1st Annilation of the Wicked came out in 1986...

2nd is that this story of mis-identification is exactly what was communicated to the editor of White Throne by one of the guys from Pure Metal.... that's the straight scoop...


1: Ah, really? I'd always heard the earlier date, but then most of what I heard about the original Tempest was hearsay and rumor.

2: I still call shenanigans. The Rowes were pretty good buddies with the Thompsons in the early days. Even if I have the story wrong and Bride didn't introduce Tempest to Morkel, there's no way the Thompsons would have confused them with the other band, and would have corrected that confusion pretty quickly.

I'm gonna go ping Junior (AKA Jamie) and see what he says. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:29 pm

xDarkRidex wrote:
mr.electric39 wrote:


2 points.... 1st Annilation of the Wicked came out in 1986...

2nd is that this story of mis-identification is exactly what was communicated to the editor of White Throne by one of the guys from Pure Metal.... that's the straight scoop...


1: Ah, really? I'd always heard the earlier date, but then most of what I heard about the original Tempest was hearsay and rumor.

2: I still call shenanigans. The Rowes were pretty good buddies with the Thompsons in the early days. Even if I have the story wrong and Bride didn't introduce Tempest to Morkel, there's no way the Thompsons would have confused them with the other band, and would have corrected that confusion pretty quickly.

I'm gonna go ping Junior (AKA Jamie) and see what he says. Laughing




Jamie and those guys didn't do anything wrong or shadey. Pure Metal just got the names mixed up. PM had heard about 'Tempest' but never HEARD them. Heck if I'd been Jamie I woulda signed too.

Dave Johnson (white throne editor) spoke with PM back in the day. that's what he told me directly. I've known Dave for over 20 years we're the best of friends. A case of mistaken identity... that's all...

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:06 pm

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Jamie and those guys didn't do anything wrong or shadey. Pure Metal just got the names mixed up. PM had heard about 'Tempest' but never HEARD them. Heck if I'd been Jamie I woulda signed too.

Dave Johnson (white throne editor) spoke with PM back in the day. that's what he told me directly. I've known Dave for over 20 years we're the best of friends. A case of mistaken identity... that's all...

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Nah, didn't think anything shady was going on at all, definitely not on Jamie and Mick's part. I just figured the story was bogus.

Of course, I'm dead wrong, and you've got it right. Laughing I asked Jamie if I can paste his response here, it's kind of amusing.

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PostSubject: Re: Tempest - Annihilation Of The Wicked   Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:51 pm

Yeah I would like to have this as well. It seems retroactive and open grave are leaning more into this reissuing of classic material mode which I think is WAY rad....the heavens force demos gave me hope recently.

Along with Tempest I would love to see cool re releases of The moshketeers, red ink, abhor evil, immortal, eric blair and oz foxs demo...etc.
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