Saint - Crime Scene Earth arrived today!

no-YOU! · brother of the Son Number of posts: 928 Age: 38 Registration date: 2007-04-06

Got his disc at the end of last week. Stellar disc! I like this even better than "The Mark"! If you're a fan of pure, unadulterated heavy metal, you'll LOVE this disc!

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StryperFanBassmanInNM · Number of posts: 451 Age: 36 Registration date: 2007-04-07

I got mine last Saturday and I think it Rocks!! very solid musically, and lyrically!!

GODSWIZARD · Play it LOUD!! Number of posts: 17790 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06

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If you're a fan of pure, unadulterated heavy metal, you'll LOVE this disc!

Cool.

I'm looking forward to it. Twisted Evil

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**Tall Tyrion** · Number of posts: 10044 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28

scottmitchell74 wrote:

Looks like I'll be working backwards with these guys as this and The Mark are my first two Saint albums ever. Will listen to The Mark tomorrow.

First two ever? Shocked

You are in for some good listening then, my brother. Twisted Evil

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**ultmetal** · Number of posts: 3339 Registration date: 2006-12-26

I received my copy last night. Listened to most of it. Doesn't sound
like Josh Kramer is singing all the songs. Sounds like Saint were
purposely trying for a heavier sound this time around. The vocals seem
a bit buried, but otherwise, I liked what I heard.

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scottmitchell74 · Number of posts: 4931 Age: 35 Registration date: 2007-03-07

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First two ever?

You are in for some good listening then, my brother.

And so I have. I keep muttering under my breath or in my head "Crime Scene Earth!!"

They are so 80's, but I love it. Even the production doesn't really bother me.

What about their back catalogue? The 4 cd "collection" - is that good?

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**ultmetal** · Number of posts: 3339 Registration date: 2006-12-26

Best Saint!
1. Time's End
2. In the Battle
3. Too Late for Living
4. Warriors of the Son (Re-Recorded)

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candlemass · Subject: Re: Saint - Crime Scene Earth arrived today! Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:08 am

Time's End
Too Late For Living
Warriors of the Son (original recording)
In the Battle
The Mark

**Tall Tyrion** · Number of posts: 10044 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28

I'd rank them this way:

In The Battle
The Mark
Time's End
In The Battle
Warriors of the Son (re-recorded)

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Uncle NecRo · Number of posts: 1451 Registration date: 2007-04-09

...well...you guys convinced me...gonna score my own copy here...next paycheck, though (the insurance and car payments depleated this last paycheck of mine)...and, Templar is very good, very nice...the prospect of a full-lenth entices me...

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Mr Lynch · Number of posts: 36 Registration date: 2007-07-31

ultmetal wrote:

I received my copy last night. Listened to most of it. Doesn't sound
like Josh Kramer is singing all the songs. Sounds like Saint were
purposely trying for a heavier sound this time around. The vocals seem
a bit buried, but otherwise, I liked what I heard.

OK you guys busted me. On the CD credits you'll notice that I am not doing just background vocals and
most of you may have noticed that Josh sang on 3 songs. Don't confuse this with Josh leaving or quitting
the band he hasn't. We're just going for a heavier sound.
Rich

candlemass · Subject: Re: Saint - Crime Scene Earth arrived today! Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:55 am

So then there's no truth to the rumor that Ripper Owens is joining the band?

**Black Rider** · Man in Morph Number of posts: 14438 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-04-09

Can you imagine? No offense to Josh.

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scottmitchell74 · Number of posts: 4931 Age: 35 Registration date: 2007-03-07

Oh man, "Ripper" in Saint? That would be awesome!

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**ultmetal** · Number of posts: 3339 Registration date: 2006-12-26

Mr Lynch wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

I received my copy last night. Listened to most of it. Doesn't sound
like Josh Kramer is singing all the songs. Sounds like Saint were
purposely trying for a heavier sound this time around. The vocals seem
a bit buried, but otherwise, I liked what I heard.

OK you guys busted me. On the CD credits you'll notice that I am not doing just background vocals and
most of you may have noticed that Josh sang on 3 songs. Don't confuse this with Josh leaving or quitting
the band he hasn't. We're just going for a heavier sound.
Rich

HA! I called it.

Which three songs did Josh sing on?

PS. LOVE the Judas Priest cover. Great choice.

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Mr Lynch · Number of posts: 36 Registration date: 2007-07-31

ultmetal wrote:

Mr Lynch wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

I received my copy last night. Listened to most of it. Doesn't sound
like Josh Kramer is singing all the songs. Sounds like Saint were
purposely trying for a heavier sound this time around. The vocals seem
a bit buried, but otherwise, I liked what I heard.

OK you guys busted me. On the CD credits you'll notice that I am not doing just background vocals and
most of you may have noticed that Josh sang on 3 songs. Don't confuse this with Josh leaving or quitting
the band he hasn't. We're just going for a heavier sound.
Rich

HA! I called it.

Which three songs did Josh sing on?

PS. LOVE the Judas Priest cover. Great choice.

Josh sang on Half a times Measure, Crime Scene Earth and Invader
Rich

**alldatndensum** · Mission Of One Number of posts: 9831 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-01-03

Going for a heavier sound doesn't really require a change in vocalist. Josh is more than capable of being gruffer if need be. But, for some of us, we prefer the less gruff vocals of the three songs Josh sang on.

There is an old saying that Saint should be applying to future albums: if it ain't broke; don't fix it. If Josh is the singer, then let him sing. The fans love Saint the way they are--there is no need for a heavier sound to keep us happy. Besides, since you don't sound like Demon Hunter or 3 Doors Down, you're not really going to pick up a younger audience by going for a heavier vocal sound. What you might do is alienate a faithful part of your fanbase.

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**arttieTHE1manparty** · Subject: Re: Saint - Crime Scene Earth arrived today! Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:45 pm

The more I hear, the more I love this disc! The Priest cover is killer!

Favorite Saint, in order...

1. Too Late For Living
2. Warriors Of The Son (re-recording)
3. In The Battle
4. Times End
5. The Mark
6. Crime Scene Earth
7. Warriors Of The Son (original)

...but being #7 on this list is NOT a bad thing. I just love the Saint catalog!!!!!

Arttie

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**ultmetal** · Number of posts: 3339 Registration date: 2006-12-26

alldatndensum wrote:

Going for a heavier sound doesn't really require
a change in vocalist. Josh is more than capable of being gruffer if
need be. But, for some of us, we prefer the less gruff vocals of the
three songs Josh sang on.

There is an old saying that Saint
should be applying to future albums: if it ain't broke; don't fix it.
If Josh is the singer, then let him sing. The fans love Saint the way
they are--there is no need for a heavier sound to keep us happy.
Besides, since you don't sound like Demon Hunter or 3 Doors Down,
you're not really going to pick up a younger audience by going for a
heavier vocal sound. What you might do is alienate a faithful part of
your fanbase.

Who said they were "Going for a heavier sound" to please the fans?
Perhaps they just wanted to go for a heavier sound just because they
wanted to and for no other reason.

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Follower of Jesus · Number of posts: 3284 Age: 36 Registration date: 2007-04-07

I'm with alldat. I'm skipping this Saint record because I don't like the vocals. Heavier music is fine, but I love Josh's singing. Testament's stuff in the 80's was heavy as stink, but had good understandable vocals. Ditto with Metallica. It is entirely possible to get heavier without losing the vocals.

I also recognize that Saint isn't "mine". So if this is what they want to be, more power to 'em. So long as they understand that they are alienating a portion of their fan base.