P.O.D.'s ALLEGED OCCULT SYMBOLS? TRUE OR FALSE?

**alldatndensum** · Mission Of One Number of posts: 9992 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-01-03

To be honest, I'm not really concerned with the symbols on their CD. Even though I still like a few of their songs, P.O.D. has just gotten old. They've pretty much morphed into sounding like everyone else.

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alldatndensum wrote:

To be honest, I'm not really concerned with the symbols on their CD. Even though I still like a few of their songs, P.O.D. has just gotten old. They've pretty much morphed into sounding like everyone else.

I agree. The new stuff is so, blah.

**Black Rider** · Man in Morph Number of posts: 14619 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-04-09

What did anyone read before 1611. Some translation sponsored by a pederast is the only one we can use.

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**Tall Tyrion** · Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28

Black Rider wrote:

What did anyone read before 1611.

Hey, if the KJV was good enough for the apostle Paul, it should be good enough for you.

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Sheen · Number of posts: 25 Age: 37 Registration date: 2009-01-30

I'm not a fan of the KJV....I like St. Jerome's Bible (the Vulgate) for old school...

for new school the NAB.

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Tall Tyrion wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

What did anyone read before 1611.

Hey, if the KJV was good enough for the apostle Paul, it should be good enough for you.

There's actually a Southern Gospel song called "If the KJV was good enough for Paul, its good enough for Me."

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Black Rider wrote:

What did anyone read before 1611. Some translation sponsored by a pederast is the only one we can use.

People make a fuss over the 1611 KJV because it was the only translation authorized by a Church. However, its translation was forcibly rendered to conform to the teachings of the Church of England and some of the allegorical interpretations found in the Vulgate in several places, even above what is found in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts that predate them. The KJV 1611 beautifully illustrates the dangers of Bible translations sanctioned by a single denomination. Assembling a multi-denominational translation committee as was done for the NIV, NASB, ESV and other modern versions significantly reduces the amount of doctrinal or denominational bias in the final translation.

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I don't believe any version of the KJV is authorized by the RCC.

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candlemass wrote:

I don't believe any version of the KJV is authorized by the RCC.

I know that. You're correct. The KJV 1611 etc. aren't endored by the RCC.

Grindboy · Number of posts: 211 Registration date: 2007-04-07

The other day I picked up a Morbid Angel cd -- and I know you won't believe this -- but when I held it up-side down, ALL these crosses started just popping out at me. It was the coolest! I think that they must have all gotten saved and then started hiding these Christian images in their artwork to try to trick people into thinking they're evil but then they'll end up making them Christian by the time the record's over. Brilliant! And praise God for their incredible testimony, although they probably won't go public with it until their music carreer's over.

As for the KJV thing, learning Greek and Hebrew won't even necessarily help -- the version that will be the "best" translation will depend on what you're translating from. If you're using the manuscripts from the 17th century, the KJV will be excellent but only with old English. If you use the best manuscripts today, your favorite modern version (really, they're all "good" for their differing tranlation philosophies -- jokers don't land on translation committies) will be best. The KJV only argument (as I understand it) really argues from the preference given to the manuscripts that the KJV came from. It's not a very good argument, but becomes just overly ridiculous when it's said that any other version is heresy. Seriously, if you read the KJV, it will lead you to Jesus. If you read any other even half-way reasonable version, it will lead you to Jesus. Hooray for the Bible and Jesus! Now if people just like the poetic-ness of the KJV language, that's great. It's really still a great translation.

The Bible's there to lead us to Jesus, not the other way around.

_Wes · Number of posts: 1924 Age: 42 Registration date: 2007-04-07

I don't trust anything - at all - that comes from the av1611 web site.

bunch of wackos - along the lines of fred phelps.

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GODSWIZARD · Play it LOUD!! Number of posts: 17975 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06

After--just now--reading this entire thread.....I just want to say this:

This guy has pus on the brain.

I hope that someone drains it quickly......before his head explodes and gets his surroundings all yucky--icky--poo.

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GODSWIZARD · Play it LOUD!! Number of posts: 17975 Age: 52 Registration date: 2007-01-06

Scourge said:

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There's actually a Southern Gospel song called "If the KJV was good enough for Paul, its good enough for Me."

And I did

After my laughter died down......now seriously. scratch

That's pathetic. Rolling Eyes

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619warrior281 · Number of posts: 7 Age: 15 Registration date: 2009-10-29

People who say p.o.d has "satanic" symbols on their album covers have no clue what they are talking about. If they had taken the time to really listen to their music,then they would have never said that.And honestly i see no form of hidden satanic image in the artwork what-so-ever.

Their music will always be amazing to me.

Mindcage · Number of posts: 500 Age: 36 Registration date: 2007-04-09

by their definition the crucifix is forbidden to...

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619warrior281 · Number of posts: 7 Age: 15 Registration date: 2009-10-29

Explain in further detail please...

Soldier777 · Number of posts: 121 Registration date: 2009-09-04

Regarding symbols, there are certain symbols that a band should use where it is satanic, "looks" or "appears" ro be satanic, or just plain looks bad ie: not a good testimony. I am not referring to any symbol in particular. Also, as far as I know there were certain symbols used by early or middle ages christians that are considered nowto be satanic like the pentegram. In addition, new agers use 777 and christians, preachers and christian rock bands refer to this as God's perfect number. In addition, 888 symbolizes Christ or is Christ's perfect number. 8 also represents infinity or eternity of God, no beginning and no end. According to the chinese religions, 8 is a very important number aswell. 666 is the number of the beast but Israel uses a 6 pointed star of David on their flag and is designed as a prayer shawl similar to what the Jewish priests uses. What ever number one uses, there is some historical occultic reference to it.

My point is whenever christian use a symbol first and the new agers or occultist pick it up and claim it as their idea, they ruins the idea of popularizing it again by other christians. Then some preacher comes along and says you can't use that symbol, that is satanic. The same applies is a symbol is used by satanists or new agers first and christians use it. Basically, what's in a symbol. One symbol I wouldn't use is Bephomat or one interwined in a pentragram. I also wouldn;t use symbols that represent false idols and dieties.

All I can say is it depends on the symbol. I am not going to beat a rock band or a graphic artist over the head for using a symbol that looks satanic. I would do the research first before I decide if its satanic or not. In addition, people like Jeff Goodwin should get his facts straight.

**Tall Tyrion** · Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28

Symbols are tricky things. A lion is used in scripture as a symbol of Yeshua, our Lion of the Tribe of Judah, but also as a symbol of the evil one, who roams about seeking whom he may devour.

Mainly, symbols are about the intent and purposes of the one using them. They are tools, not actual things in and of themselves.

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619warrior281 · Number of posts: 7 Age: 15 Registration date: 2009-10-29

I understand better now.Many symbols have different meanings to different people.And when a symbol may have multiple meanings,contraversy could arise. I do not belive the meaning behind p.o.d's symbol is intended to be satanic.

**Black Rider** · Man in Morph Number of posts: 14619 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-04-09

Better not be, I have some of those symbols tatooed on me.

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