hardcore metal live vs. cd

Jessrox · Number of posts: 212 Age: 39 Registration date: 2009-09-25

I recently have been getting into a lot more hardcore metal bands like war of ages living sacrifice, A plea for purging, bloodline severed etc. I love the sound of the music on the cd's, how powerfull it is, and how much it just straight up rips. However I get tired if the vox after a couple of songs. But when I see these bands live I love it and it doesn't bother me at all. I noticed some bands are mixing [melodic] and hardcore vox a lot more. like Bloodline, divinefire and The showdown. Which I think is killer, a good balance of the two styles is awesome. so I can handle it live but on cd It gets old. I just saw A plea for purging last night and they were killer. But when I listen to the cd I get wore out on the vox? what do you guys think about this?

deathisgain713 · Number of posts: 465 Age: 39 Registration date: 2009-02-05

That is one issue I have with this style of music. They have some killer riffs and some great harmonizing guitar leads, but the vocals get on my nerves. I've never really seen any of these bands live. The Showdown has kind of moved away from it in my opinion, which is why I am digging them more.

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pershing1134 · Number of posts: 189 Age: 38 Registration date: 2008-03-25

The vocals kill it for me as well.

TheSheepAreScattered · Number of posts: 540 Registration date: 2007-10-18

Hardcore (as an overall package) live vs. cd, are you kidding? Live hands down! A hardcore show in the late eighties was like going to war, especially secular hardcore like Fear, Agnostic Front, Black Flag, Dead Kennedys ect. In my opinion hardcore music was made for the live setting and not so much for the recorded versions. Punk rock talked a good fight but hardcore punk came along and backed up the talk. If I'm not mistaken the hardcore kids get the credit for starting such wholesome acts of kindness including slam dancing, mosh pits, and fists of fury.

GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: hardcore metal live vs. cd Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:57 pm

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1. Interesting post JessR:

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I recently have been getting into a lot more hardcore metal bands like war of ages living sacrifice, A plea for purging, bloodline severed etc. I love the sound of the music on the cd's, how powerfull it is, and how much it just straight up rips. However I get tired if the vox after a couple of songs. But when I see these bands live I love it and it doesn't bother me at all. I noticed some bands are mixing [melodic] and hardcore vox a lot more. like Bloodline, divinefire and The showdown. Which I think is killer, a good balance of the two styles is awesome. so I can handle it live but on cd It gets old. I just saw A plea for purging last night and they were killer. But when I listen to the cd I get wore out on the vox? what do you guys think about this?

Seriously......it's interesting.

No sarcasm.

(That's what I get for being sarcastic so often.

I have to qualify my statements so the reader knows I intend no sarcasm)

2. I have absolutely less than no use for punk/hardcore on CD. None. As has been said.....the vocals ruin the music IMO.

I can't stand people yelling at me. It gets old fast. I don't care if they are yelling at me with accompanying music, or not.

3. However, that said, you raise an interesting point JessR.

I'm like you. I've no problem at all with hardcore live.

I don't go out of my way to see hardcore, but if a Christian hardcore band is on the stage.....i'll always watch and enjoy them.

Er.....I just leave the show without $$buying$$ their CD. No use for it.

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**Tall Tyrion** · Number of posts: 10208 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-01-28

I'm with you. I love seeing hardcore and metalcore and death metal bands live, but I rarely if ever buy the cds or listen to them.

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JWW777 · Number of posts: 205 Registration date: 2009-09-04

For me, liking the vox really depends upon who's doing them. Different voices have different tones--even when they're yelling and screaming. I LOVE Leroy Hamp's voice of War of Ages. I think he just sounds like some guy in a movie doing a war-cry. I don't mind Andrew's from A Plea For Purging since he varies the tone here and there. But I tried listening to Becoming the Architype and just couldn't stand that guy's vox. So it just depends on the band.
The hardcore vocals had to grow on me a little...but it's actually turned out I actually like this style better than the cookie monster vox of the old Vengeance and Mortification days.

strangerhoncho · Number of posts: 357 Registration date: 2007-04-20

I'm the opposite of most of you -- I listen to heavy music all the time on CD but don't really enjoy any heavy music live. Whether it's metal or hardcore. Because you can't hear anything. It all just blends together into noise. I prefer to hear recorded instruments and vocals.

Some shows are visually fun to watch, but I've been to some 300 shows in my day so there isn't anything I haven't already seen over and over. And mosh-pits got old after puberty.

GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: hardcore metal live vs. cd Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:25 am

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And mosh-pits got old after puberty.

And I did

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metalheaded · Number of posts: 435 Age: 37 Registration date: 2007-12-01

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However I get tired if the vox after a couple of songs.

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That is one issue I have with this style of music. They have some killer riffs and some great harmonizing guitar leads, but the vocals get on my nerves.

My sentiments to a 't'! Yeah, a lot of those bands are awesome musically, but the vocals are usually the same old run-of-the-mill yelling style that has little variation. To me, most of it sounds like the same guy singing for all of those bands. He must have quite a voice to put up with all that, lol!

Some of them do have their own style, like Living Sacrifice, for example. When I hear them, I know it's them. And maybe lots of other metalcore bands have their own style, at least musically, but I'm just not patient enough to give them enough time in my CD player or mp3 player to prove it.

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metalheaded · Number of posts: 435 Age: 37 Registration date: 2007-12-01

That said, I do realize that the yelling hardcore vocal style is what defines that scene, or that movement, if you will. To take it away would be to remove the hardcore meaning. It's just not my thing.

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Jessrox · Number of posts: 212 Age: 39 Registration date: 2009-09-25

I like the hardcore vox. and melodic vox. I think a combination of the two is becoming more and more prominent. There is some serious power in hardcore vox,. and beauty in melodic vox. I think a healthy dose of the two styles in a song is the the future of metal vocals. Like duel guitars, duel vox. I like this idea.