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PostSubject: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:19 am

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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:31 am
That's cool but Morty's so far ahead of those other bands, though they maybe they'd learn from Morty.
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:46 am
I had a few reasons for doing it this way. I know I could have went with other choices, if I wanted to really DREAM, but I wanted to help plug Mort to a new generation. I also really like the energy that OTS and the SD have, but I think they don't get enough respect with more seasoned Metal Maniacs. The final reason for this show was because this show actually came close to becoming reality last Summer, but as usual, the funding was just not there.. But I was in conversation with each band and they were all game if we could make it happen.


One day perhaps I will make enough money to do an Armor Fest the way I would like to.. Praying2


For now, at least it makes for decent radio. I wanted to go for a "King Biscuit Flour Hour" type show on steroids!
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:57 am
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That's cool but Morty's so far ahead of those other bands, though they maybe they'd learn from Morty.

I hope that was a joke.
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:38 pm
empyrealsymphony wrote:
emptytomb1 wrote:
That's cool but Morty's so far ahead of those other bands, though they maybe they'd learn from Morty.

I hope that was a joke.



I think this would have been an awesome show! 2 Up And Coming bands with a Christian Metal Legend. That is what SUCKS about the MUISIC industry, it is SO "Flavor Of the Week". The Showdown is really growing in popularity after Ozz Fest last year. Mort would probably have to open for them after too long.. This is the The Showdown's time and Mort has struggled in recent years. But back in their Hay Day, they were a FORCE TO BE REKON WITH! (not that they aren't still good now)

The cool thing is that Eric (The Showdown) and Ryan (OTS) have heard this show and both LOVED IT! Haven't asked Steve About it yet though.. I am emailing him today about it..
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:53 am
emptytomb1 wrote:
That's cool but Morty's so far ahead of those other bands, though they maybe they'd learn from Morty.


Agreed!
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:23 am
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emptytomb1 wrote:
That's cool but Morty's so far ahead of those other bands, though they maybe they'd learn from Morty.

I hope that was a joke.


No "joke" needed. Evil or Very Mad


Steve and MORTIFICATION is.



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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:31 am
I guess it depends on ones point of view.. Not to get too philosophical but, music is supposed to a form of human expression, isn't it? Not competition right? Did I miss something? lol

I LOVE MORT! But I also love the guys from OTS & SD too. And I love their music. It was not meant to be a competition between bands, but an allience against evil. I think they all compliment each other.

I get tired of the "Battle Of the Bands" mentality in music. I am an advocate of coalition.
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:37 pm
You're probably right about Mort opening for The Showdown soon. I like them but I notice Christian music has no sense of history and with the catalog Mort has they should get way more respect. Like you say, flavor of the week.
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:39 pm
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emptytomb1 wrote:
That's cool but Morty's so far ahead of those other bands, though they maybe they'd learn from Morty.


I hope that was a joke.

Nope. Dang straight skippy. I have so much respect for Steve and even though many pan a lot of their newer stuff I enjoy a lot of it. I think ETG is a classic thrash album too.
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:40 pm
I remember something that happened a while back where King Crimson opened for.............................Tool!!! Shocked :lame:
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:00 pm
emptytomb1 wrote:
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emptytomb1 wrote:
That's cool but Morty's so far ahead of those other bands, though they maybe they'd learn from Morty.


I hope that was a joke.

Nope. Dang straight skippy. I have so much respect for Steve and even though many pan a lot of their newer stuff I enjoy a lot of it. I think ETG is a classic thrash album too.


Ditto. I like the newer Morty stuff quite a bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:11 pm
I like all Mort, but not Mortal
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:28 pm
No offense because I do love Steve Rowe as a person but... Mortification as a band is a total joke. They gave Christian metal a very bad name in the late 90's and they continue to do so. I remember my secular friends literally laughing at the Mort music I would play them and then they would bust out some Amorphis, Morbid Angel, Nile or Monstrosity.

I could always take pride in playing them my copy of "Nonexistent" by Living Sacrifice or my "Extraction" cd from Believer though! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:42 pm
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No offense because I do love Steve Rowe as a person but... Mortification as a band is a total joke. They gave Christian metal a very bad name in the late 90's and they continue to do so.


This post is a total joke! Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:48 pm
Dude, that is the honest to God truth. Try playing some late 90's mortification (Triumph Of Mercy, Hammer of God, Silver Chord, etc..) to secular death metal fans. The lyrics go far beyond cheesy (Noah was knower????) and the vocals are literally the worst in death metal history. I give credit where it's due. They did some pretty good stuff on "Scrolls" and I believe there are other Christian death metal bands who are amazing but Morty stunk pretty badly. I am surprised you don't see that. Most Christian metal diehards admit at least that much.
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:45 pm
Mort are a little hit and miss with me but I never thought of them as a joke. To me bands like Bride, One Bad Pig and Ransom gave christian metal a bad rap.
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:52 pm
emptytomb1 wrote:
You're probably right about Mort opening for The Showdown soon. I like them but I notice Christian music has no sense of history and with the catalog Mort has they should get way more respect. Like you say, flavor of the week.


Beleive me.. I have the deepest love for Steve and Mort. I have done 3 Mort shows. 2 in 98' and one in 2000. Steve was still very unsteady than and could not play too late into the evening, so other bands had to play afterwards. Jacobs Dream, Bio-Genesis, Rackets & Drapes, Nassusus, Wrench & Vessel were some of the bands they played with. I love Steve like a brother.. So I did not mean to cheapen Mort with this line up. I meant to honor them.

But I do love the other bands too! I hoped to introduce Mort to a younger generation. I almost went the other way, and put The SD as a headliner because they are HOT right now, but I couldn't.. Besides that recording from The Black Stump Festival on Live Planetarium is just too awesome!! What a stellar show! I try to establish and preserve the History!

KISS

But remeber this line up was going to be an allience, not competition. Watch the NBA playoffs if you want competition, aye? What a Face

I remember some of my old friends complaining about Metallica when they used to open for Ozzy.. Also some who came only for Metallica and left.. I don;t get it. I loved the WHOLE SHOW! lol
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:58 pm
Technically, all that needs to be done to give Christian metal a bad name among the knuckle-dragging neo-Nietzche metal crowd is that it be Christian metal, heh. So regardless of whether the later Mort stuff is that great (I don't think it is), who cares what people think? They'll complain about anything. Even if the review is technically a good one, they'll still make some pathetic sounding whining about the Christian lyrical themes and warning all the big strong metal fans that they may not be able to handle listening to the record. Christian reviews sometimes do little warning things about some secular albums, but in contrast, what's so horrible about Christ? Yep..
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PostSubject: Re: Dream Concert - Mortification, The Showdown, Of The Son   Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:25 pm
empyrealsymphony wrote:
Dude, that is the honest to God truth. Try playing some late 90's mortification (Triumph Of Mercy, Hammer of God, Silver Chord, etc..) to secular death metal fans. The lyrics go far beyond cheesy (Noah was knower????) and the vocals are literally the worst in death metal history. I give credit where it's due. They did some pretty good stuff on "Scrolls" and I believe there are other Christian death metal bands who are amazing but Morty stunk pretty badly. I am surprised you don't see that. Most Christian metal diehards admit at least that much.


"Secular death metal fans", I hate these lables! I've played ToM for a friend of mine who is not a christian, like me he is a metal fan, he liked it. ToM happens to be my favorite Mort LP, Steve has said he never wanted Mort to be labled a death metal band, he didn't want to be piogen holed in any genre. As far as cheese goes, there will never be a shortage of that in metal, christian or not!

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