jehovah witnesses

freddie8 · Number of posts: 20 Registration date: 2008-06-09

i have these jehovah witnesses guys keep coming back to my house and we get into these debates about everything in the bible, has anybody else got into debates with them and what did u say to them, can u help me out

xxpbdudexx · Number of posts: 22 Age: 17 Registration date: 2009-04-20

Nope.

Haha, one time when they were on our street my friend put up a post-it note on the door that said "We are Satanists" Hahaha!

What do you debate about?

**Black Rider** · Subject: Re: jehovah witnesses Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:29 pm

I use my Bible, (theirs is changed) to show Jesus claiming to be God. They deny this claim.

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**alldatndensum** · Subject: Re: jehovah witnesses Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:54 am

Just ask them questions that they cannot answer. They will stop coming around. I haven't had a visitation from the JWs since 1995.

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**Tall Tyrion** · Subject: Re: jehovah witnesses Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:19 am

alldatndensum wrote:

I haven't had a visitation from the JWs since 1995.

Visitation? Are they aliens?

I've had some good discussion with JWs, but prepare to be frustrated if you are trying to "convert" them. IMO, the best you can do is plant some seeds of doubt and pray for the Holy Spirit to do the rest.

If you need a source for doctrinal differences and scripture referances, CARM is a good place to start.

http://www.carm.org/

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**MetalH** · Subject: Re: jehovah witnesses Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:29 am

When I was a kid my mom used to invite them in and they would debate for a couple hours. It was pretty interesting. Last time some JW's came to the door I told them that I was Mormon.... Razz

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freddie8 · Number of posts: 20 Registration date: 2008-06-09

thanks for some of the replies we debate on everything the trinity, jesus, hell,144,000 one thing he does keep saying that jesus was crucified on a stake and not a cross for some reason they are very frustrating, what type of questions can i ask them to see them stuck as i am no bible scholar

**Tall Tyrion** · Subject: Re: jehovah witnesses Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:40 pm

freddie8 wrote:

thanks for some of the replies we debate on
everything the trinity, jesus, hell,144,000 one thing he does keep
saying that jesus was crucified on a stake and not a cross for some
reason they are very frustrating, what type of questions can i ask them
to see them stuck as i am no bible scholar

I would avoid all side issues and focus in on the Trinity and the
divinity of Christ. They have a publication that they gave me on the
Trinity that was very heavily slanted. I marked it up with all sorts of
notes. It is interesting to take their own literature and point out the
fallicies it contains, as it could plant a seed of doubt in their
authorities.

The best thing you can do is to know what Scripture verses teach the
doctrines you believe in and study their "answers", so you will be able
to counter them. Also, when confronted with a verse they don't like,
they will try to change the subject. Don't let them. Stick on that one
verse and ask them to tell you what it means.

Blessings, bro. Let us know how it's going and if there is any specific help you need.

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xxpbdudexx · Number of posts: 22 Age: 17 Registration date: 2009-04-20

freddie8 wrote:

thanks for some of the replies we debate on everything the trinity, jesus, hell,144,000 one thing he does keep saying that jesus was crucified on a stake and not a cross for some reason they are very frustrating, what type of questions can i ask them to see them stuck as i am no bible scholar

Some believe(correctly I think) that "cross" in KJV was a mistranslation for "stake." This is only with the KJV though, and King James was an idiot.

Eniel · Number of posts: 39 Registration date: 2007-06-03

freddie8 wrote:

i have these jehovah witnesses guys keep coming back to my house and we get into these debates about everything in the bible, has anybody else got into debates with them and what did u say to them, can u help me out

I have some experience talking to a lot of people from different sects, and I find that there's one question that works on all of them: How can you know you are saved? Cause they can't.

Talking to mormons, all they point to is a feeling that they're saved. JWs have hope, at best. They all have to do their utmost, and in the end all they can do is hope that it's good enough.

As Chrstians we can have total assurance of our salvation, because our salvation doesn't rely on our own works but on the perfect and complete work of Christ. He lived a perfect life, and he died for our sins. We are totally forgiven. Sects don't have that, they always, in some form, bring their own works into the mix.

Also, when talking to JWs, stick to what's the centre of our faith; Jesus' life, death and resurrection, and the forgiveness we receive without any doing of our own. It way too easy to become stuck in some pointless debate over God's name, for example. And be very clear on what you believe, and be careful not to agree to too much of what they're saying. They might use the same words and expressions as you, but more likely than not mean different things.

Fundy · Number of posts: 384 Registration date: 2007-04-11

Someone I know invited the JW's in and said "Convince me your view is right". So the JW's spent a short while telling the guy why their belief was the right one. Then he said "You've still not convinced me, try again". So they tried again. Then again.

In the end they got fed up of trying to prove their beliefs were right. Now, any time someone like that comes to his door, he invites them in and then just makes them say their bit and answers with "You've still not convinced me".

Fundy

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Guitar_Guy_77FP · Number of posts: 7 Registration date: 2009-07-27

MetalH wrote:

When I was a kid my mom used to invite them in and they would debate for a couple hours. It was pretty interesting. Last time some JW's came to the door I told them that I was Mormon.... Razz

Yep! That usually does the trick cheers

or open the door say 'Hello' then turned around and shout into your house 'Don't sacrifice that virgin just yet, I've got visitors!' Laughing

and for more info go here:

http://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/Beliefs/their_beliefs.htm

wv_metaller4christ · Number of posts: 584 Age: 23 Registration date: 2009-06-02

I just ignore em. I know without a doubt what they believe is B.S. and I dont need any further proof. Jesus WAS crucified on a cross, there IS a Hell, and I'm no more sure about the 144,000 than anyone but I am having a hard time believing that it is the strict limit allowed in heaven.

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candlemass · Subject: Re: jehovah witnesses Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:07 pm

Keep a watch dog for the watch tower! Twisted Evil

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Guitar_Guy_77FP · Number of posts: 7 Registration date: 2009-07-27

wv_metaller4christ wrote:

I just ignore em. I know without a doubt what they believe is B.S. and I dont need any further proof. Jesus WAS crucified on a cross, there IS a Hell, and I'm no more sure about the 144,000 than anyone but I am having a hard time believing that it is the strict limit allowed in heaven.

the number 144,000 was used only because way back then it was a HUGE number - now we have Astro-physics to give us big numbers. also, as you probaly know, Revelations is full of symbolism, analogies and imagery. Doesn't stop me reading it though LOL

wv_metaller4christ · Number of posts: 584 Age: 23 Registration date: 2009-06-02

Guitar_Guy_77FP wrote:

wv_metaller4christ wrote:

I just ignore em. I know without a doubt what they believe is B.S. and I dont need any further proof. Jesus WAS crucified on a cross, there IS a Hell, and I'm no more sure about the 144,000 than anyone but I am having a hard time believing that it is the strict limit allowed in heaven.

the number 144,000 was used only because way back then it was a HUGE number - now we have Astro-physics to give us big numbers. also, as you probaly know, Revelations is full of symbolism, analogies and imagery. Doesn't stop me reading it though LOL

ah yeah man no kiddin. the thing about revelation is its set to a point to where you cant prove something happening is a prophecy but at the same time you cant disprove it.

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Romans 10:9 & 13, 13:8
1 John 3:21-24
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GODSWIZARD · Subject: Re: jehovah witnesses Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:50 pm

Talking to a JW about spiritual truth, spiritual things, is like talking to a brick wall.

KISS

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bgast1 · Number of posts: 458 Age: 58 Registration date: 2007-04-07

I don't bother, I just tell em I'm not interested and don't have time to talk to them.

Equus Albus · Number of posts: 101 Age: 20 Registration date: 2009-07-20

They used to come over every once in awhile. They fear Roman Catholics, and would never return upon their finding out who they were bothering Twisted Evil

I also disagree strongly with their "I will refuse to sing the National Anthem and make a big deal out of it," from highschool. And pretty much most of what they say.

bgast1 · Number of posts: 458 Age: 58 Registration date: 2007-04-07

Equus Albus wrote:

They used to come over every once in awhile. They fear Roman Catholics, and would never return upon their finding out who they were bothering Twisted Evil

I also disagree strongly with their "I will refuse to sing the National Anthem and make a big deal out of it," from highschool. And pretty much most of what they say.

Sounds like Obama-wan he wants to I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing instead of our violent National Anthem. flower